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As I write this post on a Monday night, I am not short Conolog Corporation (CNLG) overnight, but I did make $772 shorting this stock on Monday…and TIMalert subscribers and those who have subscribed to my new newsletters banked $2,000+ as we shorted from the mid 4s to the high 3s (my $772 was near-worst case scenario, stock didn’t collapse like I expected)

+$623.69 on CNLG short…
+$299.84 on PEIX short.
-Reaper

Up $176 on paper on my short of 400 shares of CNLG at 4.45… Also made $160 going long 30,000 shares on JALSF
-PTA

total of $912 gain on CNLG today, thanks Tim!
-Bob

+$110 on CNLG short, could have doubled that with a little patience, have to learn to control that butterfly in the stomach feeling.
-mudshark

$180 before commissions in CNLG short.
-qbantek

covered half CNLG @4.2 and other half @4.5 for $100 …
-parabol

CNLG is crazy +120
-Joe

I tell you this not to brag, but to help you understand it does me no good to expose this story right now…in this case, I am hurting the chances of this squeezing overnight shorts and turning into a bigger short squeeze worth me shorting later today, but I didn’t start this blog to prove how good a trader I am, I did it to teach!

So while traders like Cody lose 70% getting squeezed but taking pride in “being right” about his research exposing this as a pump & dump, my intro helps you understand the trade did not go the way I wanted (shorted at 4.30 and covered at 4.19) and yet I still made $ because I traded like a coward…something young Cody still needs to learn…

(Cody, don’t give me that junk about “oh I’m so brutally honest, look at me, I lost 70% today but I’m okay because I know blah blah blah”…someone standing in the middle of the road staring down an oncoming while telling onlookers “I’m about to get hit by a bus and it will hurt a lot, possibly kill me…but I thought I’d tell you because I am so hon…”(the bus hits him before he can finish) IS NOT DOING ANYTHING PRAISEWORTHY)

Okay, let me get back to why CNLG is a pump & dump…oh wait, this is my free blog…in the world of free financial content, you get what you pay for…which is why Sucking Alpha and Sucking Alpha and blogs liek Cody suck…and are dangerous (Cody normally isn’t so sucky, but his ego gets in the way far too often…I know Cody, I used to be like you)

You want to know my trake on CNLG, you gotta signup to one of my new newsletters…bitch and moan all you want, but I have a PROVEN track record, I don’t take $ from carcass companies and I’ve got thousands of happy customers…if you cannot afford $50/month for quality information from a scarred veteran, you shouldn’t be trading penny stocks, let alone risking your boss catching you read my blog and demoting you to an even smaller cubicle!

Disclosure: I understand my title of this post is misleading…I promise not to do it anymore, just a good lesson in mocking Motley Fool which does it all the time…and they just raised $25 million

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  • Guest

    Anyone that buys your stuff is getting ripped off. You are shameless self-promoting bastard that preys on the newb. What kind of clueless idiot like you only talks about the gains and not the losses that your lemming followers have? You are a ridiculous clown.

  • http://www.timothysykes.com Anonymous

    Morning troll, what rank are you on covestor? what rank is cody? what scams have u and cody exposed? have u ever turned $12k into $2 million? have u ever written a bestselling book detailing everything? do u have thousands of happy sutdents who you have saved from penny stock prediators? did u write 12+ posts exposing EMGE, GVBP, SPNG and dozens more pumps? NO you are a useless troll, but i thank u for keeping my students entertained.

    PS i talk a TON about my losses, i’m just enough of a veteran not to let any loss get out of control…read my book you ingrate. apology accepted, we were all naive at one time or another

  • Guest

    $12K to $2 million, every time you mention that you make me want to throw up. Everyone remember Tim BLEW UP his multi-million dollar hedge-fund and lost a HUGE CHUNK of that money. BLEW UP!Time and time again, all you talk about the gains your followers made, but anyone with HALF A BRAIN would say, hmmm what about the people that lost money on it? But of course when you write your self-promotional posts, all you add up are the gains people had not the ones caught holding the bag. YOU HAVE NO SHAME, you would do anything to sell your crap. This post on CodyTrades above is all-telling about the kind of human being you are.

  • alex

    Yes, CNLG was an obvious short. I couldn’t get a borrow to ss yesterday but go some today. My question is why the hell you settled for a measely .10 gain? You shoulda be gettin more, holding at least some of it overnight. Like you say, it’s a pump and dump, an obviously pathetic company. No, this is not an earnings run it’s a hype run and up 4x in a few days, LOL! This stock is gonna crash and burn, baby. And tim you are a pussy for covering early!

  • http://www.timothysykes.com Anonymous

    again your own comments prove your inability to research…the $12k to $2mil was little trade by little trade…the “blowing up” was a 35% loss due to me GETTING AWAY from my strategy…can u even read? and no, when i have a strategy that works time and again, of course i’m gonna try to get as many people as i can using it.

    as for holding the bag, who is going to do that exactly? if u learned my strategy before u criticize, u’d know my #1 rule is cut losses quickly…other than a DNDN-like FDA news gap, its impossible to have big losses…thats why i have such issues with cody’s dangerous writings…not to mention, i ALWAYS tell my subscribers to report their gains and losses…tough for them to have losses as i shorted this one within 15 cents/share of the top

    stop wasting my precious time your ignorant misguided assumptions and give into my damn promotion so u wont be so blind anymore

  • http://www.twitter.com/codytrades Cody

    Hey guys, Cody here. I won’t bother arguing with Tim, you all know how he has his default arguments and slurs and he’ll throw them at me one by one. Really, not worth my time. Tim, you’re always right, don’t worry.

    I’ll just fix some misinformation in this blogpost

    1) I know about a shortsqueeze as well as any of you including Sykes. I did not wait as I was losing money while thinking I was right (as Tim suggests here). Stock gapped up with me in it. I told about my reasons to hold overnight in my post. I hold overnight often and it works for me, I accept the risks involved with it.

    2) The fact that I lost 70% in one trade doesn’t mean much. I was up a whopping 90% in this account for January. Yes, 90%. While I don’t spend my time trying to document everything like Tim does (because I’m free), all my trades are tweeted realtime so you know I’m not blatantly lying. How is this 90% made? By risking a lot, of course. I take big positions, so both my wins and losses are big. And at the end of the month I take away the excess money and reset the account to 30K. The exact amount I lost on this trade was $14560 plus commissions. The excess money I took home from this account was $25800 at the end of January. So, don’t let Sykes fool you. But he’s right if he says his way is much more safe.

    3) The fact that he says my post is bullshit because it’s free is so funny. We know that Tim thinks exactly the same way as me on the scams ran on this stock. Just because people can get this information free shouldn’t be that much of a worry for you Tim.

    Finally, while Tim takes home his 11 cent win on this stock, I’ll probably be banking a dollar or two in the next few days.

    Thanks for listening and Tim, really I’m not planning to waste more time on this. You bashed me, I responded and defended myself, let’s leave it at that. I wish you a long and happy life.

  • http://www.timothysykes.com Anonymous

    good reply, rationalizing a $15k loss with $26k in january earnings is a big mistake. i rip on your free post to show the dangers of following free info in penny stock land…at least you’re a real trader unlike most. i am not always right, but i will not let u suck in my students to your “exciting” strategy that can big and lose big…i protect my students at all costs

  • http://www.timothysykes.com Anonymous

    alex the correct phrase is “trading coward” and yes i am proud to be one…i’ve seen far too many pumps go further than i ever though possible…had they had another PR, it couldve surged to 6+ and i wasnt sure if i’d get more more borrows…i dont risk $1-$2/share losses for the possibility of making 50-75 cents/share…i gave it 2 hours to collapse, it didnt, worst case scenario i made $772…not risking $15k losses anytime soon…i dont trade for $, i trade to teach others…playing it safe is good teaching

  • alex

    Good post mr. cody. I’d say the reason Tim is selling his strategy is because he knows he’s not a great trader and can make more $ as a pimp for his strategy (which is probably true for anyone who is selling a trading strategy…otherwise, if it was so good and making them so much $ why would they want to sell it?)…….but, AT LEAST Tim admits this fact, that is, that he is not great trader and can make more $ blogging (and, not to mention, be risking nothing). At least tim is honest.

  • http://www.twitter.com/codytrades Cody

    In my post I said I may lose more money on this stock. Right after the post I tweeted: This post doesn’t mean it’ll drop right away, it can have another big day”. So, if your “students” are smart enough you shouldn’t worry. Just because it’s free doesn’t mean it’s wrong. But yeah, most free sources suck I’ll give you that.

  • http://www.timothysykes.com Anonymous

    ah but here’s what u’re missing, my students ARENT smart…as i believe i emphasize over and over…people think i’m just doing it to belittle them but actually they really are quite moronic…in terms of trading…so i must treat them like babies…and u can’t give babies sharp objects, which is what u’re doing cody…understand now?

  • alex

    Which sharp object are we speaking of here? CNLG?

  • http://www.timothysykes.com Anonymous

    The allowing of losses to run just because we all know its a pump & dump…verrrrry dangerous concept in the minds of trading babies

  • Grievstein

    So you’re saying that being a safe trader is the equivalent of being a bad trader? Go tell that to all the people who employ his strategy and made their investment back within days of signing up with Tim.

  • alex

    Yes but I was wondering which stock it was that caused the loss?

  • http://www.twitter.com/codytrades Cody

    Oh Tim did you even read what I wrote? I don’t ever stay in a short just because I think it’s a pump. It’s a dumb thing to do and believe me, I’m not dumb at all.

    Again: The stock had a weak close so I held it overnight. Then it gapped up. That morning I didn’t even think for a second “I’ll hold onto it, this stock can’t run to 6″. It can. Yes, Tim’s students: a pump can run anywhere it wants. Don’t ever think otherwise.

    I’ll let you point out to your students that what I do is risky. But as you always say, you’re not good as a trader. I am. So I can handle it.

  • alex

    Best advice for trading: Cut your losses short and let your winners run, and run, and run…
    and run. And then run some more.

  • http://www.timothysykes.com Anonymous

    do me a favor and update your posts with your specific entries and exits…very confusing saying u lost 70%

  • alex

    Notice i didn’t say “bad”, i said “not great”…(besides, Tim’s words, not mine)

  • Guest

    I didn’t do research? A huge 35% loss on a million dollar+ hedge fund is MASSIVE loss, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDs of dollars. Dear Tim subscribers: 1) I urge you to cancel your subscription. Read blog post above to see what kind of dirt-bag human being he is, do you really want to send your hard-earned money to a person like that? 2) Do you really want to send your money to a guy that blew up his hedgefund and lost hundreds of thousands of dollars? Moreover if someone had investment secrets would he be really be selling them on internet or just trading on his own? Use your brain people. He’s ripping you off.I love how Tim brags about his performance when a one-armed monkey could make 10-20c every trade if he put it in an illiquid penny stock and then emails his 2800+? followers about it. When the lemmings come in, he exits. Yes a one-armed monkey can do that and make 10-20c every time. You really want to give your money to a dirt bag like that? Use your brain people!

  • http://www.timothysykes.com Anonymous

    u didnt do research in that my multi-hundred thousand dollar loss is NOT the strategy i am teaching, in fact it serves as a good lesson for all, which is why i wrote this blog post:

    http://www.timothysykes.com/2008/03/obituaries-cygt-aka-the-stock-that-killed-my-hedge-fund/

    and i love that u think my followers are able to borrow that many shares of true gimmes…if they could, i wouldnt be teaching, i’d take all the shares myself.

    u need to stop exemplifying the kind of ignorance that exists in teh financial markets…assumption makers are analysts, not trolls….go back to your cubicle

  • Guest

    I’ll just repeat what he just wrote. “my students ARENT smart” “they really are quite moronic”.. really people, you give this guy money?

  • http://www.timothysykes.com Anonymous

    because they want to learn from someone who is smart and has seen ALL the ups and downs…someone who details their strategy, track record and lessons for all to learn from. u’ll come around eventually, some of my top students misunderstood me at first too…not gonna be the nice guy, too many fake BSers out there, think of me as your drill sergeant, now go and read 50 books and report back when u’re able to learn private!

  • Jay Biddy

    Tim, I’ve been a subscriber & read your book twice and I don’t see anything wrong with Cody taking larger positions or holding a loser if his strategy is working. Personally, I don’ t like holding losers, but we live in a free market and he can run his service/blog any way he chooses. He’s making money so that’s all that matters—people can choose not follow him if they aren’t happy with the results. As far as your trading, you’ve done well, but still haven’t hit the major leagues as a trader. This isn’t a shot at you as I believe you have a bright future, but now your focus is mainly on blogging & subscriptions, not trading. Growing 10k into 100k or 500k is nice, but you will have much more credibility when you make some big money like growing 100k into $25 million or something comparable. (I know you grew to $2 million, but you lost much of it and it’s not what you make, it’s what you keep) The only problem I have is three things. 1) Your constant self-promotion really marginalizes your value. Less is more and I have no desire to be constantly cross marketed nor spammed. (I believe stocktwits banned your recently) If you could cut down your spamming then your posts might add more value. 2) I got tired of your attack on people. I know you feel you’re helping traders avoid the shady websites, but you could do that by just having a separate page on your website of “SITES to AVOID.” List the sites and then offer a detailed description. But your constant spamming & posting of negativity wore me down as well. 3) Covestor is better than nothing, but most of the 40,000 members have never uploaded their portfolio. In addition, Covestor does not track options, futures, commodities, etc., which many of the best full-time traders focus on. Almost everyone in Market Wizards #1 wouldn’t ever be able to track their trading. Happy Trading!

  • http://www.twitter.com/codytrades Cody

    It’s actually less than 70%, I eyeballed that number from the closing price of Friday (2.11, I was short then) to the price I covered after the gap (3.70)

    The entries were all tweeted realtime, you can verify.
    2.35 first entry on Friday
    3.40 second entry on Monday as it looked like it won’t be able to hold the gap (It actually dropped to 3.00ish, I hesitated to cover)
    I believe the exit was 3.70 (need to double check that one). So there. It’s much less than 70% obviously if you take my average price. But that’s not the point. From the initial gain of my first entry to final loss of that same entry is about 70%.

  • Guest

    Great post Jay Biddy. Cheers to you! You nailed it on the head!

  • Guest

    Another example of dirt bag Sykes shadiness, is his penchant to put mis-leading “blantant lies” titles on his posts and links to drive traffic to his site. He did it with Wall Street 2 trailer and even on the blog post above. It shows you what kind of liar scumbag he is.

    I mean for real, do you want to send your money to this kind of human being? I wouldn’t.

  • http://www.timothysykes.com Anonymous

    dont have time to go through all your tweets, if u would just list your entries and exits and realized/unrealized profits..itd be most appreciated

  • Anonymous

    TIM,

    I’m not here to bash or hate on you. I just simply want to bring some transparency to those novice traders out there blinded by the limelight of the quick money. Leaving my name anonymous because I don’t need the attention, but my credibility will soon be seen.

    I’ve followed you since the beginning, back in 2008. When you first made the blog, right when you said you were going to begin booking your trades. I was fascinated by the 12k to 2 Million rags to riches story. What college kid wouldn’t? But believe me and to all others out there reading this, trust me, it’s not that easy. And of course you’re going to say ‘I never said it was easy troll.’ But when all you do is post ‘How I made $XXXX today.’ Or ‘How my subs made $XXXX today so can you.’ It begins to look very misleading don’t you think?

    I read your book, bought your first ‘PENNYSTOCKING’ DVD. Later you came out with Part Deux, and then it just never stopped w/ the marketing of your DVDs. I even subscribed to your TIMALERTS but after 3 months I cancelled my membership. If you don’t believe me you can check you receipt of payment to BULLSHIP PRESS via Paypal from Oct-Dec.

    Do you remember trading and giving an alert out for a little stock named IDAE?. You probably don’t and can’t even look it up anymore because they went bankrupt w/ no ticker symbol. But this is exactly what I’m talking about and proves my point even more. It’s these low floats, low volume, & hard to borrow type of plays that you ‘Pump.’ As much as you want to deny it, you pump Tim. Still think I’m Bull sh*tting?

    How about the alert you gave out on CVI back in Nov. 2008? Maybe I can refresh your memory.

    Your email to subs: “covered 2000 CVI at $4.42ish, not because i think the stock is headed higher–its downtrending absolutely perfectly, but because i have to go work on my upcoming DVDs…again, welcome to the life of a part-time trader.”

    Like umm wtf? Because you have to go make DVDs? Come on man. Or was it because this low volume didn’t move after you got all your subs jumping on the wagon. To be honest, your plays before the 25k PDT rule were on point, I loved them. But it seems like when you got over the 25k and you got enough subscribers to move a position, that was exactly what you did. But when you couldn’t, you would just jump ship. When you would alert a low floater, I would receive my text & email alert like with a 1-2 min delay, by that time you had already moved the stock enough to get out or realize you can’t move it and bail. So I was like “WTF, I’m over this.” And don’t come back at me with get a faster phone or computer BS, you know there some lag to all your alerts, you can’t be perfect. But I just wanted to let people know when they might have to hold the bag when you squeeze out on them.

    I haven’t been to your site since, I began following you on twitter thinking you might have some transparency but yet again all you did was promote your site and push your DVDs. So I just took you off that as well. I think marketing & promoting became your main goal while trading was pushed to your 2nd priority, and I didn’t want that in a mentor. I learned a lot from you, don’t get me wrong. You were the one that got me into this game, but you seem to have your priorities blinded ever since you became ‘mainstream.’

    But as long as you’re getting yours right?
    All the respect to you.
    Get your money.

  • Guest

    Awesome post anonymous. Awesome. I bet there are hundreds of people like you out there. Keep it coming. If Timmay deletes these negative posts/comments, which I’m sure he will b/c he can’t take the heat even though he dishes it out… Don’t worry. I took screenshots. Your speaking truth to power will live on!

  • Legacy Trades

    Tim,
    First let me say your paper trades on Covestor are tremendous. Next, your exposure of scams like IMGG and NLST (with help from the respected @geckler) are fantastic. That said, paper trading, shorting stocks under $2.50/share and the ridiculous marketing angle, leveraging the “polarize” thesis (Tim, you know leverage is a bad thing, that’s how you blew up your fund), doesn’t truly help investors wishing to learn, it hurts them. Fortunately, there are other options folks and @codytrades and @firstadopter will get you done!
    Legacy_Trades …… never blew up a fund or family office, with or without a Covestor ranking. We stick to real money management and real returns for those wishing to learn.

  • http://www.timothysykes.com Anonymous

    Good post but plucking 2 bad calls out of 296 isnt exactly proof of much, especially when an academic study just showed the other day i have a 75% winning percentage…and yes, i’m gonna promote my DVDs forever because what u fail to realize if that i get 300-600 emails/day asking questions i’ve already answered in my dvds…of course i’m gonna get paid for my answers and hold onto my sanity while helping as many people as i can

    PS as my subscriber base has grown, i dont pick illiquid stocks like IDAE…my latest trades on CNLG, CDII, PEIX, JYHW, MDCE prove that point

  • http://www.timothysykes.com Anonymous

    deleting negative comments? holy shit dude, you’re dumber than a doorknob, i’m the only transparent guy out there…PS thanks to your dumbass tweet saying i wont link to timmy’s post and then linking to it 20 minutes later, u just got me 5 new subscribers…thats the beauty of having a transparent track record, thanks goon!

  • http://www.timothysykes.com Anonymous

    PS we just introduced IM alerts which are the fastest yet for PennyStocking Silver members: http://www.timothysykes.com/plans u might want to check those out…and in case i didnt make my point clear, i’ve created additional DVDs ONLY because i have gotten so many new questions…these are my way of answering people…and yes for quality information, you gotta pay a small price

  • http://www.timothysykes.com Anonymous

    haha hey moron, read the last line of my blog post…if u can read…busted

  • http://www.timothysykes.com Anonymous

    I’d love not to mention my products, but when i do, they dont sell as well and yet the questions from people pile up even more…so i have a choice, i can either show everyone my answers are in my products or answer more emails and have no time for anything else…and yes i will attack people, i have nothing to hide and its fun to prove other people’s ignorance…if i had a strategy capabale of turning $100k into $25 million, u really think i’d be blogging? cmon dude, u seem somewhat smart, i know the secret to turning 10k into $100k and possible $1 million within a few years…thats worth more than anything else in the entire finance industry, i will get more people to replicate my success and thats all i need…

  • http://www.timothysykes.com Anonymous

    2nd request, please post all your entries and exits so we can better understand your strategy…u want respect, be transparent…as it stand all i know is that u lost 70% and then made some back…not exactly transparent

  • OptionsTrader

    Hey Tim,

    Just was wondering if you knew that Lebed sent out an email alert yesterday saying “CNLG is a short here at $4.45″ ??

  • http://www.timothysykes.com Anonymous

    yup, he tries to gain credibility by throwing out some gimmes every now and then…good mix to his unethical pumping

  • Jay Biddy

    I recognize your talent and hope the best for you, but I don’t think you will ever find the satisfaction you are looking for in attacking others. You don’t need to respond to most of these bozo’s out there. Just try to keep it positive—-the old “stooping to their level.” Your success in your blog, trading, Covestor should be enough without the trash talk. You have done things in your short career that 99.99999% of traders will never experience. You ARE living the dream, that should be enough. Maybe you need a hobby or two so you aren’t responding to the naysayers day & night. For every person that pats you on the back for your aggressiveness & trash talk, there is another person who is canceling their subscription out of annoyance.

  • catnhat

    12k-2million in two years riding a bubble just like many other “traders” do when theirs a bubble!IT AINT ROCKET SCIENCE and i am not just saying this, for it is a fact that most “traders” who make huge money riding a bubble.LOSE most of their profit once the bubble pops and the time for real logic kicks in!…tims no exception…35% ouch!

    plus i dont understand this covestor crap!
    because since you decided to start all over with 12k..you have only made how much? 100k+.so that 50K+ a year????…but i have seen and heard of many traders who make SEVERAL HUNDRED thousands a year!!

    i guess no bubble..no mill!

  • http://www.timothysykes.com Anonymous

    catnhat, waste my time, make me repeat myself, not trading risky or aggressive, trading to show my strategy’s worth and its low egree of risk…look at my drawdowns, no leverage, etc…PS do your trader friends spend 15 hours/day blogging, making DVDs and teaching others….different businesses…go attack some of the 95% of traders who dont profit and the many frauds who pretend to trade and teach others…i’m a saint compared to them, but thanks for displaying your ignorance!

  • http://www.timothysykes.com Anonymous

    request #4, please show us all your trades, profits/losses…u want me not to rip on u for allowing a 70% loss, PROVE yourself little boy

  • Cody

    Dude seriously, you need to get a life. Who do you think you are? You can’t call me things like that, I’m not one of your “students”.

    I did not receive an email for the previous 2 “requests” of yours, I would’ve replied sooner just hoping that you would move on.

    But I don’t understand what you want here. I told you my loss, I told you my exits and entries. It’s not like I’m proving a gain here, you want me to “prove” a loss which I already told everyone about. You’re weird.

    You say you can’t waste time going through my tweets. Umm, why should I waste time then? To gain your respect? I couldn’t care less. But just one tip, search for $CNLG codytrades on twitter and starting 5 days ago, you can see all my moves on this stock. And they’re exactly the numbers above.

    I am real and I am just a good trader. I am not your competitor, you are the one who started this just to score points in front of other people. Now calm down and save your rage for the shameless promoters which we both hate (but love secretly since we make money off of them).

    I will also point this out: As I said in my blogpost, I know that I will make up most of this loss on this exact same stock. My loss wasn’t something I could control much as it happened overnight. But I worked hard for my gains, nailed an entry at 4.38 avg (again, look at my tweet history) and stock closed at 2.98 today (I’m still short half of my original position). Let me remind you that my loss was from 2.35 to 3.70. Now with these profits, I’m almost there, right?

    Meanwhile you made about 10 cents on this stock. Which is fine, you play it safe and can’t catch’em all, and I said before that I respect your trading (I even recommended your book before, search for your name here http://www.formspring.me/codytrades). But I’m just saying this because you should understand that you need to find someone who sucks for real when you want to point out an example to your customers.

    I think I have said enough and made myself clear. You made me waste 15 more minutes of my time and I don’t think I’ll let you do any more of that. You can say whatever you want about me after this, I don’t have the time or patience to deal with you. Now, goodbye.

  • http://www.timothysykes.com Anonymous

    i’ll call u whatever i want,…given that u just wrote a long reply and yet still have not listed out your trades, you’re no more credible than the elitetrader goons…i know u got crushed shorting early…u say u re-entered but there weren’t many shares so i still dont even know if u have a profit…why is it so difficult to list your entries and exits, u say u’re a good trader, prove it…very sad that u can’t fulfill a simple request, fishyyyyyyyyy

  • http://www.timothysykes.com Anonymous

    and no i dont want life, i’ve been there done that, now its time to take out the trash and cut through all the BS out there…those who can’t list their trades and claim to be “good” traders deserve all the suspicion in the world…especially when all we know is that u lost 70% the first time around and we have no idea your position size or overall gain/loss on this trade so its pretty tough to defend your position that u werent waaay off base here…i hope for your sake that u did profit, just dont be such a pussy and clam up when someone asks u to prove it