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Why Low Priced Stocks Crush High Priced Ones aka I Love Frauds & Failures!

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Let the records show (CRY) and (NOG) as Exhibits A and B, whose charts I’ve posted HERE and HERE, respectively. Both have gone in the direction I predicted—CRY higher on the breakout and NOG lower after going vertical—but I haven’t touched either one. I’ll tell you why.

Sure, the SEC has a noose around my neck—and every other trader under $25k—but for all CRY’s and NOG’s perfect price action, the big $ rewards just weren’t there. Given my tiny account size, each postion woulda been around $4k, basically 400 shares each…if I’d timed them perfectly, which is rare, I’d be up 50 cents/share on NOG ($9.60 to $9.10) and 60 cents/share on CRY ($10.10 to $10.60), basically $200 each…over 2 long days!

Instead I chose to trade PSTI—a blatant failure of a company (reverse splits are a dead giveaway)—half the price of CRY/NOG, allowing me to trade 1,000 shares; sure a bit bigger $-wise, but since it’s not a real company—the stocks of frauds/failing companies are more predictable because the players are bitter shareholders, pumpers/promoters and short sellers aka all have clear motives—I felt more comfortable.

And instead of having to hold and wait for 10%-ish volatility over 2 days (real companies have sooo many more variables/players aka take longer to make big moves), I made my first $330 in 20 minutes and now the other $100+ basically holding overnight, even though my trades were far from perfect and the stock has definitely not acted the way I thought it would.

I know this is a difficult concept to accept, that’s why I take such pride in teaching it!

TIM Lesson: Low priced stocks rock because they’re fraudulent/failing hence simpler/more predictable

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  • timsykes

    FRPT helps proves my point even more today, daaaamn any of u guys in that?

  • timsykes

    FRPT helps proves my point even more today, daaaamn any of u guys in that?

  • lmsmith

    Picked up 2k shares when it was $1.52….. I am laughing all the way to the bank!

  • lmsmith

    Picked up 2k shares when it was $1.52….. I am laughing all the way to the bank!

  • Davey

    I’m just like you Tim, my account is too small to hold stocks with potential…I was in at 1.50ish a couple weeks ago, but it was doing nothing so I got out. This game is great for the under 50K account but having the luxury of holding some of these will make it even better.

  • Davey

    I’m just like you Tim, my account is too small to hold stocks with potential…I was in at 1.50ish a couple weeks ago, but it was doing nothing so I got out. This game is great for the under 50K account but having the luxury of holding some of these will make it even better.

  • lmsmith

    Out of it now……….. TIM are you thinking about shorting this one?

  • lmsmith

    Out of it now……….. TIM are you thinking about shorting this one?

  • Webster

    Waiting to see if it stalls a bit again to jump in

  • Webster

    Waiting to see if it stalls a bit again to jump in

  • Dhan

    I’m in at 2.45 with over 5k. I mentioned in my post on last saturday and you forgot to answer my post.

  • Dhan

    I’m in at 2.45 with over 5k. I mentioned in my post on last saturday and you forgot to answer my post.

  • timsykes

    nah just reshorted PSTI at $4.25, this thing is a goner

  • timsykes

    nah just reshorted PSTI at $4.25, this thing is a goner

  • Webster

    Dhan – short or long at 2.45

  • Webster

    Dhan – short or long at 2.45

  • Dhan

    Long. I’m not comfortable shorting FRPT and i guess it could go over 5 very quickly based on huge short position and expected revenue over 1 billion for 2008.

    Tim, what do you think?

  • Dhan

    Long. I’m not comfortable shorting FRPT and i guess it could go over 5 very quickly based on huge short position and expected revenue over 1 billion for 2008.

    Tim, what do you think?

  • GabeC

    Nice drop PSTI. This thing holds up a little too well for braking technical barriers. How far down do u think this might go down Tim?

  • GabeC

    Nice drop PSTI. This thing holds up a little too well for braking technical barriers. How far down do u think this might go down Tim?

  • cacaosteve

    Are you still looking to cover PSTI around 3.50, Tim?

  • cacaosteve

    Are you still looking to cover PSTI around 3.50, Tim?

  • timsykes

    FRPT is and has always been a contract guessing game, thats not my kind of play

    PSTI on the other hand just took out support, damn buyers prevented a nice takedown under $, covered 1/2 at $4.15, i’m being over-protective, but i just dont like big block buyers

  • timsykes

    FRPT is and has always been a contract guessing game, thats not my kind of play

    PSTI on the other hand just took out support, damn buyers prevented a nice takedown under $, covered 1/2 at $4.15, i’m being over-protective, but i just dont like big block buyers

  • timsykes

    to best play these supernovas, u really just need to short then slip into a coma for a few days so u cant cover

  • timsykes

    to best play these supernovas, u really just need to short then slip into a coma for a few days so u cant cover

  • GabeC

    Ya looking at it every minute doesnt help much. Can’t help it, my eyes are glued to the screen.

  • GabeC

    Ya looking at it every minute doesnt help much. Can’t help it, my eyes are glued to the screen.

  • A

    Wow, you sure are in to the one night stands Timmay! In and out.

    Covering your PSTI short in 7 minutes. Why don’t you let it play out? Perhaps the buy blocks could be bluffs.

  • A

    Wow, you sure are in to the one night stands Timmay! In and out.

    Covering your PSTI short in 7 minutes. Why don’t you let it play out? Perhaps the buy blocks could be bluffs.

  • lmsmith

    MLNM ~>>>>>> what do you think about that as a short? I know it’s not your pattern…. but this being up so much- it’s bound to take a drop of 1, 2, 3 … back to reality……….. Thoughts TIM?

  • lmsmith

    MLNM ~>>>>>> what do you think about that as a short? I know it’s not your pattern…. but this being up so much- it’s bound to take a drop of 1, 2, 3 … back to reality……….. Thoughts TIM?

  • timsykes

    i dont care if they are bluffs, i wanted the $4.25 to create stop losses to take out the $4s then cover…like dominos…when the dominos stop, i dont wanna risk it considering the spread and illiquidity, 1 10k buy at the as could take it to $4.50…not worth it, i’ll take my $500, even if i played it perfectly it’d only be $800 so not the end of the world

    mlnm is a real company and the news is solid, stick to frauds man, its sooo much easier

  • timsykes

    i dont care if they are bluffs, i wanted the $4.25 to create stop losses to take out the $4s then cover…like dominos…when the dominos stop, i dont wanna risk it considering the spread and illiquidity, 1 10k buy at the as could take it to $4.50…not worth it, i’ll take my $500, even if i played it perfectly it’d only be $800 so not the end of the world

    mlnm is a real company and the news is solid, stick to frauds man, its sooo much easier

  • timsykes

    GTE cnbc pump!

  • timsykes

    GTE cnbc pump!

  • timsykes

    def. out of trades for today, mark it fake short at $4.28

  • timsykes

    def. out of trades for today, mark it fake short at $4.28

  • Daniel

    Bought 1500 VLNC today at 3.34 sold at 3.55. Profit $315.00
    Paid for your CD’s
    Thank you Tim!

  • Daniel

    Bought 1500 VLNC today at 3.34 sold at 3.55. Profit $315.00
    Paid for your CD’s
    Thank you Tim!

  • timsykes

    PSTi 20 cent jump, thats why i’ll always prefer covering early than risk being late…u’ve heard of fakeout breakouts, w ell this was a fakeout breakdown, plenty of signs warning u all along, big block buys!

  • timsykes

    PSTi 20 cent jump, thats why i’ll always prefer covering early than risk being late…u’ve heard of fakeout breakouts, w ell this was a fakeout breakdown, plenty of signs warning u all along, big block buys!

  • Andrew

    Covered NCEN at 3 today. I wish i had read what you said about falling into a coma earlier!!!

  • Andrew

    Covered NCEN at 3 today. I wish i had read what you said about falling into a coma earlier!!!

  • Oliver

    tim what do you think about SOLF? is there a possibility that itll go back down to $9-sh?

  • Oliver

    tim what do you think about SOLF? is there a possibility that itll go back down to $9-sh?

  • GabeC

    Damn PSTI… still holding. Tim since this is the third down day. Is it still a good overnight short? I mean its still downtrending right? Maybe if I do the coma thing it will work out better?

  • GabeC

    Damn PSTI… still holding. Tim since this is the third down day. Is it still a good overnight short? I mean its still downtrending right? Maybe if I do the coma thing it will work out better?

  • Tony Ellis

    GTE lol

  • Tony Ellis

    GTE lol

  • Tony Ellis

    Cramer pump

  • Tony Ellis

    Cramer pump

  • timsykes

    gabe if i i thought i was a good short i’d still be in it, read comment #21

    solf who knows, not a predictable pattern

  • timsykes

    gabe if i i thought i was a good short i’d still be in it, read comment #21

    solf who knows, not a predictable pattern

  • GabeC

    ahh right, my bad, forgot my reading glasses.

  • GabeC

    ahh right, my bad, forgot my reading glasses.

  • lmsmith

    Solars, are choppy… I think it is luck- when you get it the right time, and luck when you short it the right time…..

  • lmsmith

    Solars, are choppy… I think it is luck- when you get it the right time, and luck when you short it the right time…..

  • Tony Ellis

    TITN CNBC pump

  • Tony Ellis

    TITN CNBC pump

  • Raman

    WTSLA and HOTT. Both up today. HOTT posted better than expected same store sales (they were still negative from last year tho) and WTSLA was off by 10% from last years. Both up today because of overall market. I know this doesnt go with ur trading strategy, just giving a heads up to anyone interested in shorting. Good luck ya’ll

  • Raman

    WTSLA and HOTT. Both up today. HOTT posted better than expected same store sales (they were still negative from last year tho) and WTSLA was off by 10% from last years. Both up today because of overall market. I know this doesnt go with ur trading strategy, just giving a heads up to anyone interested in shorting. Good luck ya’ll

  • Raman

    also FEED, cant crack past 13.4 for the life of it, get in a short if u want. PEACE

  • Raman

    also FEED, cant crack past 13.4 for the life of it, get in a short if u want. PEACE

  • cacaosteve

    You thought you only covered half of PSTI, Tim. It wasn’t clear you covered everything…

  • cacaosteve

    You thought you only covered half of PSTI, Tim. It wasn’t clear you covered everything…

  • cacaosteve

    *I thought

  • cacaosteve

    *I thought

  • lmsmith

    Akns, I believe was a great short- from high 8s… look at the pos now

  • lmsmith

    Akns, I believe was a great short- from high 8s… look at the pos now

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