My First Yahoo! Finance / TradingMarkets.com Article: How To Short Sell Pumped Up Penny Stocks
Posted by timothysykes on Wed 14th of May, 2008 03:20:53 PM
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Check it out right HERE. You’ll discover that when you write a brutally honest piece like that—without pay or motives considering I’m not short any of the stocks mentioned nor do I know anybody who’s short—you’re not gonna make too many friends in this joke of an industry. Especially down here in the gutter of the stock market.
Big whoop, I have too many friends already—it’s more fun to write for honesty’s sake, helping the unfortunate suckers who aren’t as experienced as me. That’s my business model and it’s gonna piss off a lot of the people who earn their livings by preying on those amateurs. Deal with it. If I do my job right, penny stocks and microcaps will become infinitely more popular because people will understand how to play the game.
Think of it as cleaning up SoHo so we can build all these nice shops and attract tourists in our neighborhood for once. I’m not trying to get rid of the manipulation—that’ll never happen—just trying to explain it so people can profit from it.
Forget about how entertaining it is to watch CNEX’s amazing, now 70% disintegration on the day down to $2.25 (those of you who took solid profits in the $4-5 range, welcome to that great feeling of regret!), the response on the Yahoo message boards to my calling Converted Organics Inc (COIN) and China Organic Agriculture (CNOA.OB) out on being nothing more than promotion schemes is priceless. Feel free to voice your opinions there!
COIN message board, 2 threads, HERE and HERE
3 things we can take away from all this
1. I hope the SEC does come after me because I have nothing to hide, I’m not short these stocks, I’m not working with anybody to beat these stocks down, I have nothing against stock promoters or their work, I write only based on experience and to cut through all the BS so people can understand what’s really moving these stocks and ideally profit from it. It’s amazing/fun/interesting that this is such a novel concept to so many in this industry.
2. Hopefully Investopedia reads this article and changes their website that says short selling penny stocks is impossible!
3. Notice nobody on the Bioshaft Water Technology Inc. (BSHF.OB) is complaining, everyone already knows that’s a pump and dump!
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Congrats on being published.
Did my previous post show? had a play to watch… its up 67% already today
and yes congrats on being published
Yea if there were haters before these posts will def. attract more. LOL, they’ll be bitching about your posts shifting price action.
Good stuff…
Investor which stock is up 60 percent today?
Good article Tim.
just read the threads. LOL. i am really glad i found your blog, Tim. If i look back how stupid my perceptions of some of these stocks were… I guess most of us here highly appreciate how you share your experience. Today, on WSS, i made $25k and jumped from pos. 728 to pos. 20!! That was crazy. And not by holding one lucky stock, but by (buying) and shorting according to those few guidelines you talk about here every day. Thanks!
Keep an eye you UBET for tomorrow. Spiked 15% in last 10 minutes of trading. Can’t find any news other then a press release from the 6th saying the new head of the company plans on pushing web marketing (was his first task to employ a stock pumper?)..
Also, to anyone interested, I closed my 800 shares of UQM (in at $2.28) at $2.15 for a profit of $75 (after double commission because I modified a partial fill order so they charged commission on both halves!). Went down a lot slower than I expected. Thankfully I took advantage of a down spike.
Hi Tim,
What do you think about Luna?
Is it a good time to short the stock?
Yahoo Finance, congrats. If anyone would like to meet big daddy for cocktails at Ulysses come by, Ill be the guy pimpin in the corner with all the 25 yr old ladies.
Nice Cuban will be there too. We’ll have Mojitos!
luna looks bottoming more than anything else
Whoa, that was quite a jump in UBET in the last few minutes.
Cool article, Tim.
UBET up to 1.65 in extended hours. Somethings up..
UBET might be up because of the perceived additional bettors they will have after OTB (off-track betting) closures.
But this is old news… anyone find anything newer? Other than last week’s earnings.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02.....f=nyregion
whoaaa, Tim’s got an article up on Yahoo! Finance. Wait, does this mean you’re becoming more mainstream? Is the finance community finally willing to hear you out?? I know you’ve written articles for major sites before but it has been a while, hasn’t it?
P.S. I made +269 on your UQM, my first short-sell. I owe you a DVD purchase my amigo.
P.P.S. KRY slumped just like you said it would. I didn’t have any buying power to short it at $1.13 and so I missed a potential +13% gain today. Oh well, still happy about UQM. Will KRY make a further descent tomorrow? Eh, it’s not as predictable as a pump-and-dump.
What effect will popularizing this strategy do to gaining profits? Just make it more difficult to find shares or wha?
awwwww, you mean your method can only earn a “few million dollars”? That’s not enough for me!
J Monie, I doubt it will happen immediately. There’s also a bunch of constraints holding people back from shorting often (the SEC rule, buying power limitation, adherence to their own biases, adherence to traditional methods, etc.) I’m sure there’s some fat gains to be made in certain niches of options trading and yet you don’t see everyone jumping in on that boat. Tim’s a good promoter, but there’s only so many people he can convince to use his method.
Considering everyone plays the angles differently, I doubt there’ll be much impact whatsoever. Over time shares will become harder to borrow, but the volatility and liquidity should increase equaling everything out.
new post:
http://www.timothysykes.com/20.....-inc-cnex/
I liked your article.
Your play on stocks has always made the most sense to me.
Speaking of options, I just went to an options trading seminar last night.. Was pretty cool, helped cement the techniques in my head a bit.
Tim I am sure you have covered this before… will all brokers allow shorting of penny stocks or are there specific brokers we should use?
BCLN is prime example of how to make money. You people need to read further more and never more and russian power in money stocks and girls will lead you to everything in this once a dominant country but now nevermore.
BCLN was .22 cents now today close at 3 penny’s.
The new post doesnt work for me :(
Tim,
My internet explorer can not open your Join Tim TV post (May 11) and the latest one (The Pump and Dump Blues). Upon clicking to either of these two posts immediately aborts the operation. Is there any other way to view/read these posts? Thanks.
hey tim, now you mentioned your favorite books, which are very helpful…. you can now list worst trader books out there based on your own opinion…. books to stay far far away from..
Hey Tim I can’t open the new post (using Internet Explorer fyi)
great article!
smart trading skills would be buy on pump and sell on dump and you make more money than small.
I do not want to ridicule but I am just astonised by the bird money you people jump abouit.
Maybe I don’t come back here until we see serious people.
shesnikov–many people here are just starting out, it’s good to get them to think differently and cynically. buying the pump is extremely dangerous as evidenced by CNEX’s collapse yesterday.
when u have $5, $10, $20k, $500, $1k profit/trade is a lot, especially when we know 90% of traders lose and they can make more in 1 trade than they would earn in a mutual fund per year
tim, you are correct when you place it that way.
trading stocks whether buying or shorting is much better than mutual funds and profit is profit no matter how you look at it.
I have great history shorting FSLR and various others high P/E stocks but microcraps I thought were no possible to short.
I guess I have learning to do.
Tim I am sure you have covered this before
john, i use and recommend thinkorswim:
http://www.thinkorswim.com/tos.....de=0907_02
On the bottom it says the following:
* TOS IRAs are restricted margin accounts. Provided your IRA application is approved by thinkorswim, you can trade any complex option strategy you like as long as the resulting position has defined risk. We do not allow for short stock, naked short calls or futures.
Does not allow for short so I wonder as I would luv to join your gang.
So can somebody help me here? I thought thinkorswim was able to short or “borrow” shares but read my above blog as it says otherwise.
can’t short in IRAs…anywhere
I looking for personal cash account and perhaps margin.
The big boards are easy to do, but the pennies are intriging.
Just for fun, Tim, I added up your “profits” from for the past 3 + months. You’ve made $4439. After a 30% cut by uncle sam on short term capital gains and another $980 in brokerage fees (98 trades x $10) Tim, you post a grand total of $2421 for all your work in three plus months. Now lets just say you spend 20 hours a week on researching these “opportunities”. 20 hours x 12 weeks = 240 hours. $2421/240 hours = $10.08/hour. You could make more slinging mochas at Starbucks. Given your paltry performance, how can you claim your strategy of shorting is actually working?
1. i’m working on a $300k loss from CYGT, i have no taxes due until i make that back
2. my account is nothing more than an example to show my strategy works for small accounts. if u invested 12k in the s&p, you’d be down 5-10% right now. advantage me.
3. i spend more time writing/answering questions so my trading has been impacted
4. if i was using my full cash stash of $500k, this would be $150k in gains, but people with small accounts wouldn’t have learned as much. its not al about $ u snob, its about education
5. i spend hardly any time researching opportunities, this can be done in under an hour/day…but if u want to make $ in the stock market, u dont question the time it takes to achieve gains and an education.
6. 90% of traders lose money, do some more research and see that 90% of my readers make money.
any more questions? class dismissed
Tim,
You’re not being honest about your strategy. If your account is supposed to be “an example to show (your) strategy works for small accounts” then it has to stand on it’s own merits as a small account. If we’re supposed to follow your lead, most of us don’t have the luxury of a 300k writedown to get out of paying taxes. We also have to pay those pesky brokerage fees which add up fast with frequent trades. You also claim “if u want to make $ in the stock market, u dont question the time it takes to achieve gains and an education”. Well, I think you need to acknowledge that most of us with small accounts are working stiffs and time is indeed important to us. If we have to spend many hours doing research and monitoring our trades during the day it’s got to be worth it. Right now, this strategy isn’t. In short, you need to play the game on your audience’s playing field, not your own. That’s disingenuous.
But I will say I applaud you for trying.
Just took a look at those message boards…Better watch out Tim, the SEC is coming to get you haha
my strategy works incredibly well, i’m just not that great at it…thats what i mean when i say my account is just one example…there’s a few people out there now who will begin detailing all their trades openly and u’ll see that my 50% 6 month return is just average, if not below average.
and my profits include all commissions and fees!
oh yeah and if u had my dvd, u’d see that i suggest holding stocks for days or weeks, like VRML and CNEX–i just play it this way cuz i have no patience. its fine for u working stiffs.
keep asking questions, stop making assumptions
Tim,
I’ve been looking all over your site and can’t find any mention that your profits include commissions and fees other than your response to me. Might want to do that somewhere. Also, why do you keep saying you’re “shorting” stocks. You’re not. You’re holding them for small gains and getting out. I don’t see any “shorts” in your investments.
just lately i’ve added “including commissions” to blog posts, since i post my account value, i thought people would get it, but i forget how dub and abused most people are.
also 99% of my trades are shorts, i have no investments, u need to read my book, dvd or 500 blog posts before u post anything else cuz all the answers r in there
You shouldn’t insult me if you want me to buy your dvd. Bad marketing. I still don’t see a “short” in your transactions. You buy low and sell a little higher. A short sells high and buys low. Aren’t you using the term “short” wrong?
ha I don’t have to be polite like some snake oil salesman, my DVD is 10 years worth of experience in penny stocks, if u dont get it, it doesnt bother me, u’re just at a disadvantage. until someone else as brutally honest as me comes along in this niche–which doesn’t seem likely anytime soon–i’m all u got.
read the associated blog posts with each trade and u’ll see they’re shorts. my broker, thinkorswim, and many other brokers don’t differentiate between “sell short” and “sell” nor “buy and “buy to cover” so neither will i. after all, a short is simply a reverse buy.