To All My Haters Out There, This One’s For You!
Posted by timothysykes on Thu 20th of Mar, 2008 03:42:16 PM
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I don’t know what’s caused the recent surge in hate mail—beauties like:
“I lost any respect for the book you wrote after seeing your website….what a load of SHIT!!!!!!!”, “I read about your story and in 2 minutes I already know your scam” and “YOU SUCK. You aren’t an investment guru, you are a frick’in retard Cramer wannabe. Dip shit.”
Maybe it’s because I’ve treated AA Dupre more like an object than a person. (Uhhhhhh, she sells her body, doesn’t that make her comparable to merchandise?) Or that I enjoyed using her gossip—repeatedly—to exemplify the kind of bottom-dweller-spikes-briefly-before-fading-back-down-to-the-gutter stock chart patterns from which I profit? (Yah, many of you still don’t get that, maybe THESE slides from my PennyStocking DVD Package will help you there) Maybe it’s due to the fact that the gossip has led to over 100,000 website visitors in the past 8 days and some nice DVD sales from people who never thought about comparing gossip to pump and dumps (I know it’s my specialty, but is this really not obvious?)
But more likely its due to the fact that now after 4.5 months since inception, my mistake-riddled (but always detailed) little TIM portfolio is up nearly 35%, making me #1 by a mile on investor ranking website Covestor!
Oh yeah, I know, it’s pretty small-time, compared to the big bad world of hedge funds, but you forget that I’m trading microcraps, smallcraps and penny stocks. According to acceptable financial practice, I should’ve lost everything by now, right? (Like the people who buy into these stock turds, the financial community is lacking in researching ability (maybe that’s why many of you are Wall Street analysts) (snap!) and forget that my approach is actually somewhat conservative: never use leverage and to short sell them, or when buying never to trust them as if their ticker was BSC! How dare I try to take these wretched little creatures mainstream? Who am I to think they are right for average investors?
Well, I’ll tell you exactly who I am—I am one of those average investors. Read back through my 500 blog posts and you’ll see I’m nothing special. Just a guy with a big mouth who’s sick of everyone ridiculing the only sector that’s ever provided consistent profits! Now, as I’m always sayin’, it’s time for little Timmayyy to cut through the BS…So to you ignorant haters, I say watch this clip:
And please be sure to keep it up because you only encourage me to work harder! I know you won’t research—c’mon, no time with all your resume sending and all night coke sessions, no worries, be yourselves and have fun, but if you think I only got lucky in the dot com boom, you’re wrong! If you think I’m trying to cheat people out their money, you’re wrong! If you think I’m ever gonna give up or not answer any and all questions tossed my way, you’re wrong! You think smaller investors don’t need help from somebody like me, you’re sooooooo wrong!I keep forgetting that thanks to the efforts of all the other “gurus” in the financial education market, you people have become scared little doggies. Like abused little doggies, it’s gonna take you a while to trust people again. Especially considering the detestable beings on Wall Street— money-hungry gurus and corporate drones alike—can hardly be described as human. I keep forgetting how abused you doggies have been. My bad. PS You can now follow me on Twitter, haters preferred!
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Woot !!!! i like the video
we need more haters
Hey! you’re on radio now: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Z.....ony-Leach-
Tim, what do you think of this guy, http://www.ireallytrade.com ? He seems to be one of the few good ones out there.
Admin, will that radio show be available later as a podcast?
Yes - it will be. You can listen to it live now here: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Z.....ony-Leach-
And if you have any questions for Tim, call in at (347) 945-6579 and ask Tim anything.
Tim excuse my french but F U C K the haters…you are good at what you do and that is really why they hate because they try and try and at the end of the day they still suck….keep doin what you do…youll go down in the books as one of the best imo….haters make the world go round….
I’m going to call in and ask Andrew Horowitz if he thinks mustaches are in style.
Tim just asked that question for you - hope you heard his response. lol
Tim,
What a great response by you to post this hater’s comment. Shows your confidence. Keeping drinking your Cristal while they drink Hatorade (not Gatorade)!
I am in the process of developing a housing blog (www.americanstreetblog.com) for my company right now. Hopefully your friend has gotten his golf game up (Wall Street Warriors)
Amir $yed
You are such a fucking tool TIM. Do yourself a favor, buy a knife and run into it until you stop moving.
People don’t hate you, they just think you’re a retard.
What is some of these peoples problem if they hate Tim so bad then get a life and dont go to his blog or site. Grow up you whiny little babies, cant you find anything better to do.
LOL, I’m going to download the podcast. I look forward to listening to the Discipline Investor’s commentary on mustaches!
http://finance.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ%3AMALL (Super nova?)
Yep - MALL !!!! I was looking at that two hours ago. Looks like it was already taken advantage of in after hours. It’s on my watch list.
Is a precondition of a “supernova” that the rise wasn’t motivated by authentic news? (I just ordered Tim’s book, and it hasn’t come yet. I’m new to all this.) Thank you.
I think when you listen to TIM’s podcast that was broadcasted today… you really see he’s just a lucky guy with a few quick tricks. nothing special - but he shares what he knows on this site. is he a retard? maybe to some… but like everyone out there he’s just ou thtere to make a couple quick bucks… and has an unconventional way to do so.
Right on TIM. Funny how all the haters have to sign in as “myass” or “anonymous”. That alone should tell you something. Not to mention their lack of research to realize that your brutal honesty is too hardcore for them. have to give them credit..if you’re not some lying pump & dumper and you are actually showing people your trades, your wins, your losses and your strategy, and you’re telling the truth, then what the hell are you doing here trying to change all the lies and hype that this market has been founded on? damn you TIM! As for the Cramer comparison….please. two completely different sides. but the haters would already know that if they actually took the time to figure that out for themselves. ya…you - “myass” and you to, “anonymous”.
Damn..more hater you got, meaning you(your blog) is gettting more attention. Many people just hate to see other people make money, success, or gettin hot girls.
Good work Tim….and I am still learning…$1200 up today. Lesson learn today, set your goal, stick with it..never get greedy.
You are all idiots if you think he’s something. “Sykes pattern”…give me a break, it’s called spikes and no he didn’t invent them. Go to Trader Magazine’s website and search for “Tim Sykes”. And read through all that funny shit including an email exchange with him begging to go to a party. Fucking moron lost most of his money, his family and friends who invested with him hate him. He has no risk and money management techniques. Tim Sykes - Failed hedge fund manager who has to sell $297 products to stay alive. Sucks, that you kicked yourself out of the big boys club.
-Anonymous hedge fund manager
Ha, Larry Williams, I don’t trust anybody, let him blog his ideas EVERY SINGLE IDEA/TRADE and then we’ll see.
MALL, yes, too bad about the after-hours drop, wish it’d had a few days in it, maybe it still might
As for the Sykes pattern/Supernovas, yes, they’re spikers, I def. didn’t invent them but since microcraps have unique qualities, I will get people to focus only on them. Most other patterns are too random…as for losing my friends and family money, yup, but since when did 30% become “most” and u forget they were all up big when I was the #1 ranked short bias fund manager 2003-2006, fund actually finished up a few percent, much better than the crap I take. they don’t hate me and wait til u see what i have in store for them…
But yes, it’s true for a very long time I had little risk management–mostly due to the snobby secretive scum infested world that is finance. nobody is willing to share their experiences openly! Disgusting, just as much as u hate me, i loathe u right back. u should be ashamed of yourselves
And as for being out of the hedge fund game, best decision I’ve ever made. My investors weren’t crying for their money back, I closed it on my own. Who cares about the big boys club, you’re all soulless money grubbing shadows. what will u leave behind? nothing except a few bastard children. no, i prefer to teach, and by the time i’m through i’ll have helped more people than all of your mistresses put together, aka hundreds of thousands. that IS something worthy of devoting one’s live to.
Oh and Traitor Monthly, sooooooooooo what, I leaked the damn news story to Page Six, helped me sell a few thousand books, showed i don’t give a crap what others think of me, i’m on a mission here. And of course there is that tiny fact they thought my TV show affected my trading and thats why my fund was down. so much for investigative journalism, they probly shoulda read my book i sent them before rushing to judgment. they’re little more than superficial/arrogant sellouts who represent the very worst of the trading community. they forget that trading is great not only because of its ability to create great wealth but to teach great lessons
Apples? Ya Timmaaaaaay! How bout them apples! since most of you have overpaid for your education and you think spending less than $300 on a GREAT learning tool is a waste of money…what do you call the crap you continue to post here? you’re hate for TIM’s success is helping to drive up the site traffic. keep it going. I love nothing more than to see some so called average trader stick it to you all. not to mention if you’ve even followed his site, you’d already know that he’s never claimed to be anything but an average trader. So my only question that I’ll ask again in due time…is how are all you haters going to feel when he’s reached his goal of $1.65M again and you’re all still trying to make your first $1M with good ‘ol proven value investing that can take 20+ years. Sure slow and steady will get you there but that’s not what this niche is about. big - calculated risks - playing hype that you and all the rest of the market manipulators out there created - means BIG rewards IF played right. figure it out and take a lesson or two from an average trader and perhaps you’ll wake up and realize there’s actually more to this than just the crap you’ve heard on some power lunch show with some over paid ANALyst telling you what the next stock is. It
Oh ya TIM speaking of AA Dupre…you should get her to be regular on your show! Never hurts to have eye candy while showing charts. especially on pump and dumps!
hmmm been a long time fan.
still looking for your book here in singapore and no i wont buy your $40 book signed/shipped here when i can see it for sale online for 20 dollars. yes im that cheap…
hope you do well in your trading, when you see yourself get a little cocky hold back a little. that last slide last time was pretty bad, but its good that you got it all back and then some.
here a site im associated with. just posting it up.
http://financemanila.net
Tim, as much of an asshole son of a bitch you are, I’m very surprised that you’ve humbled yourself a bit. When you’re a fund manager, your past returns mean nothing if you’ve lost it all. As for Cygnus, you got caught up in the hype and now your shares are worth $0.016…worthless. Any trader, whether voluntarily or involuntarily allows himself into a position to lose everything but a penny in a single transaction is a fool. I don’t understand what type of person would have invested in your fund. In fact, I wouldn’t even call it a hf, perhaps a collection of trading accounts for family and friends? You can teach all you want, but you know that’s not where the money lies. Many failed traders and managers do tend to go out on the seminar circuit and/or sell products. Your reputation is damaged and since your name and foolishness is posted all over the web and personally depicted in your book, you’ll never become a fund manager again. Go spend the rest of your life teaching, but you and I both know that these newbie traders look up to you because they’re clueless and don’t know how to trade a single share right. It is of no surprise that your site and “fan club” is all full of newbies, wanna be’s, loser traders, and otherwise people who won’t make it, and God forbid, they follow in your footsteps. Tim Sykes - An American Asshole Loser.
It’s kind of ironic that you link to non-existent page in response to a person criticizing your website, no?
What a high Sharpe ratio!
Tim - how much $ is this blog pulling down? I heard some blogs make up to $30k a month - not hating, more power to you, you always give your honest advice and are far from a pump/dump or scammer (at least I dont think anyone is paying you to feature certain stocks like Lebed).
Wow, a Sharpe Ratio. I thought all you guys did was study exponentially spiked charts. It’s good to see there are some out there who actually study other related stock materials.
Sigma Sigma Sigma Gamma Delta Moooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Blog is doing okay, new site goes up April 1st.
Hater #28, I don’t care about fund managing, being bigtime or being the best investor/trader, etc. I once did, but I don’t have the same priorities anymore. I see too many people–95% of traders–with NO idea of what they’re doing and too many frauds/liars/marketers taking advantage of that ignorance. I plan nothing less than to devote my life to changing that game. Not because I’m the best but because I’m the most open. Because for all my failures and mistakes, I’m big enough to be able to detail them, celebrating them even…for the benefit of others. With CYGT, hindsight is easy, the blame falls on me, but I also curse all you other people who have had similar experiences and not detailed it. If we keep thinking like that, nobody will ever learn! That’s why you guys can say whatever you want, it doesn’t matter, as long as I stay true to this goal, I’ll succeed beyond my wildest dreams. This is about changing up this joke u call the financial industry
tim says “Oh and Traitor Monthly, sooooooooooo what, I leaked the damn news story to Page Six, helped me sell a few thousand books”
tim you are soo full of shit you should walk around w a septic tank. YOU leaked the story?? That’s like saying Eliot Spitzer leaked the story so he could get back to private life. The “story” is the most embarrassing thing you’ll ever see. You look soo foolish and worthless begging to goto a party its beyond laughable.
And to say you sold a few thousand more books?! What a friggin lie! Your book has been a disaster, you admit you only sold 5,000, if anyone believes that.
Get a clue loser.
Unlike Spitzer, I don’t have a damn thing to hide–I talked to Richard Johnson on the phone, how the hell do u think they quoted me? Also faxed him all the emails…you just don’t get it, I’m in the right here–like u, Traitor Monthly didn’t do their research properly (as is the ignroant habit in finance).
As for 5,000 copies sold, thats 2k below a “bestseller”, in 5 months…..all print-on-demand….not sold in stores….aka a raging success….stop being such a Wall Street analyst and do some DD before you speak!
Yeah sure tim, you leaked these embarrassing emails, just like Eliot leaked the whore story
What about the girls who bought party dresses Waaaaah!!
tims grovelling email he is so proud of:
Rich emailed me saying you’re holding firm that you don’t want me there tomorrow night, but let me just try to change your mind because this last minute notification that I’m disinvited has put me in a jam.
1. Rachel and I talked / emailed last week about me coming and she was fine with it, so I made plans to meet up with nearly a dozen friends. Some of these people I haven’t seen in a very long time and we’ve been talking all weekend about what we’ll do after the party.For me to bail on them at the last second would be extremely rude.
2. I will have no cameras and will not be covering the party for my new jobs as reporter for TheStreet.com (I’ll be starting as a writer in a few weeks) and MSN Money (I am their goto video guy). I’ll be low-key, really.
3. I invited 2 female friends who went out and bought new dresses for this event. I don’t know how to explain it to them that I can’t attend with them.
4. While you guys seem to think ‘I’ve made a mockery of the list’ with my eccentric behavior, other media outlets now recognize me as a finance expert / personality. Sure I have an ego, but my position is backed by CNBC (7 appearances since the beginning of the year), CNN (I debated greed with the most powerful religious leaders last month), FOX (I was on Cavuto on July 4th), Oprah and Friends Radio (they loved my book and are having me on in a few weeks), Young Money (I will be their cover story for their October issue, Penthouse (I will have a feature story in their Christmas issue), and Wiley (they offered me a $35k advance for my book).
5. You guys are took a pretty good shot at me in this latest issue so even if you really believe I somehow embarrassed you last year, I consider us even.
So please, give me a chance, once you read my book and see what I’m trying to accomplish with my life, you’ll see I’m not such a bad guy.
Don’t get me wrong, I leaked the email about Traitor Monthly’s editor chastising me for not working hard enough trading, which he was 100% wrong about. those lowlifes leaked the entire email chain…i don’t mind grovelling, i don’t get embarrassed and those bastards screwed up my whole night, too afraid i’d take over the party….they were right, i would’ve
Truth - just go to the source site you which has all the emails.
Does anyone out there know what chart to follow for the Composite Housing Index?
Nevermind. I found it right after I did the above post. Thanx anyway.
Tim, we all know that the financial industry is full of shit, so you’re right about that. As for you profiling that whore, don’t forget the story of Jim Chanos partying with Ashley at his house in the Hamptons FYI. I think people would have more respect for you if you just keep your ego in check since you’re just one of many who’ve made money in the 90’s. I’m not saying that you’re bragging, but you don’t need to advertise it as often as you do when people know you’ve lost the majority of it. What is difficult about managing money is if you have a string of successful years, you’re a star, and if you lose out big time, it’s over…it’s a never-ending cycle. I am part of the fighthere in DC to get the SEC to deregulate the restrictive nature of hf websites. I think it’s absurd that one needs to log in and meet certain criteria to view the contents of the site, which is no different than those millions of porn sites. Let’s face it, when we were all 13 years old, we all clicked the “I am 18+” button to enter anyway, regardless of what ‘penalties’ existed. One thing I do have to mention is that you are very open, however, for future reference, keep in mind that anything written or spoken may be posted and may come back to haunt you. Also, burning bridges with the top traders/hf managers is not a smart move. They will always find a way to ‘hate’ on you for a very long time. As for sticking with your dreams, I do have respect for that.
Solid post but I am not scared of haters, I encourage them because I literally have NOTHING to hide. Whether or not I’m right about teaching stuff being big business, I spend little and have more than enough cash in the bank. Like reality TV, this reality teaching…sometimes it’s gonna be ugly but such is life, particularly trading life
Well this verbal fist fight just turned into a verbal reach around by the both of you.
Hater, you’re a douche for no other reason than you wasted your time writing all those posts to try to prove something when frankly nobody cares. You’re obviously insecure with yourself because people who portray a high personal value don’t waste their time fighting on the internet. And if you’re a hedge fund manager, what the hell are you doing writing blog comments in the middle of the day? It was Thursday, last day of trading this week. You should have been covering your losses you keyboard jockey. Among other things that I’ll detail in the next paragraph, I feel sorry for your investors who have such an insecure troglodyte managing their money.
If you were a real man you’d at the very least step out of anonymity. I feel sorry for any girl you pay to sleep with. It will be the worst 30 seconds of her life.
And Tim, for fuck sakes man get over these tools. You’re doing well, the facts with TIM alone prove it. The majority of people here don’t pay any attention to the haters so I don’t think you need to be so defensive. When the haters come out of hiding and say who they are, then defend yourself. Until then, consider them annoying 17 year olds who are butt hurt puberty has taken so long.
“M”…aren’t you doing the same thing as the hater by being anonymous as well? lol
The difference is I’m not fighting with anybody…..I’m attempting to stop the back and forth bickering and get back to investment talk. But with that said, if hater takes issue with the truth and would like to discuss it with me I’d be glad to do it in private which is where the original argument should have happened in the first place. Tim, you’ve got my email, feel free to send it to hater.
I wanna short this argument
Here’s what’s a little confusing: The “haters” are proclaiming their superiority to Tim by calling him names like five-year-olds. Yet if they’re such fabulous traders who do it right, what are they doing watching Tim’s site and posting insults and arguments? One might suggest that their time is better spent trading and researching trades if they’re so successful. Spend more time doing what you’re good at!
Seriously, why on earth do that haters care what Tim does or how he does it? So he’s got a knack for getting great publicity - some good, some bad. What’s it to you? Really?
If you disagree with his trading strategy, then have a useful discussion on it and offer up your arguments and give support on them. Otherwise, there’s really no purpose for you to be here.
Tim–one question. You say that “4.5 months since inception, my mistake-riddled (but always detailed) little TIM portfolio is up nearly 35%”. Yet Covestor has you as being up by 150% since last November and 52% this year. Is Covestor wrong? Are you wrong?
Also, I would love to challenge your supremacy on Covestor but can’t auto-import from Interactive Brokers. Please could you lean on them and encourage them to make that happen? Thanks.
Michael Goode
GoodeValue.com
Covestor’s #s don’t account for your cash position. So when I commit 20-40% of my portfolio to 1 stock, they take that as 100% of my portfolio since i have no other stocks. unfortunately beneficial to my 1-2 stocks at a time strategy, but only if i’m right
Thanks for the explanation, Tim.