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Bears Can Say Whatever They Want, The Stock Market…

April 13, 2009 at 8:15 am
by Timothy Sykes

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….dosn’t care what poor people think!

Yup, anybody who’s ever been a longterm bear is poor, as compared to anybody whose been a longterm bull.

You guys know I don’t play BS market guessing games, but market history, recent price action and personal experience tell me that despite the tremendous amount of gloom and doom in the big-headline-dependent joke of a financial media (you know it’s a joke when the horrifically-mismanaged-probable-soon-to-be-bankrupt-Blodget-run Business Insider blogs (I’ll probly have to buy them and turn them around eventually) have the best content), we’re in for more strength…which I’d love as I’m pretty much the only short selling strategy that looooooves bull markets (don’t understand how, well stop scratching your heads and LEARNNNNN how to profit from the short side in bull markets especially!)

Don’t get me wrong, if WFC is manipulating their accounting (likely but even just a little bit of creative accounting vs. possible huuuuge losses or accounting manipulatyion is actually bullish!) and this whole reobund turns out to be a deadcat bounce instead of a “generational bottom” (haha silly little marketing-hungry finance freaks), then that’s fine with me too.

Aside from the above decade-long-jaded-cynical-trader comments, ALL traders should remain open to more upside or downside (stop guessing…stop watching BS no-edge-time-wasting CNBC….stop reading BS no-edge-time-wasting WSJ…finance is not interesting, it rips your life away without you even realizing it!!!!), just understand what history (the only expert I trust because PAST PERFORMANCE IS IS IS IS IS INDICATIVE OF FUTURE RETURNS…yup, the SEC and lawyers are full of BS too (but everyone already knows that).

Aight, I’ll stop criticizing the scumbags who deserve it and just show the over-arching historical trend over the past 140 years that annihilates all market noise/chatter:

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  • Adam Frisoli

    Tim,

    How can you run a blog and not proofread your posts? Seriously, what are you thinking?

  • Adam Frisoli

    Tim,

    How can you run a blog and not proofread your posts? Seriously, what are you thinking?

  • Dan

    Bekause itz a blog u ID10t

  • Dan

    Bekause itz a blog u ID10t

  • Adam

    I understand what you’re trying to say, Dan, but I don’t think that you make a very good point.

    There are many blogs written in a professional tone with zero grammatical errors or typos. These are a pleasure to read and will likely encounter some success on the web.

    Other blogs are more informal and the language tends to be colloquial and familiar and liberties are often take with grammar and structure to evoke a certain mood.

    The mistakes I find on this site and in Tim’s posts are glaring and indicate that he cares little for the presentation of his content. It shows a disregard for his readership.

    A man who spends so much on suits obviously understands the important of good presentation. How hard is it to write decently? Especially when you expect to profit from your informational products . . .

  • Adam

    I understand what you’re trying to say, Dan, but I don’t think that you make a very good point.

    There are many blogs written in a professional tone with zero grammatical errors or typos. These are a pleasure to read and will likely encounter some success on the web.

    Other blogs are more informal and the language tends to be colloquial and familiar and liberties are often take with grammar and structure to evoke a certain mood.

    The mistakes I find on this site and in Tim’s posts are glaring and indicate that he cares little for the presentation of his content. It shows a disregard for his readership.

    A man who spends so much on suits obviously understands the important of good presentation. How hard is it to write decently? Especially when you expect to profit from your informational products . . .

  • JackChap

    Adam,
    If you don’t like the blog then go read another one .
    What is it with these whiney moaners..??
    Take your comments and get out of here.

  • JackChap

    Adam,
    If you don’t like the blog then go read another one .
    What is it with these whiney moaners..??
    Take your comments and get out of here.

  • http://www.jamesfowlkes.com Good Mutual Funds

    Bulls Make Money, Bears Make Money, Pigs Get Slaughtered!
    Oh and Tim is right,… Long term Bears get slaughtered too.

    Adam,
    Quit yer whining and read Tim’s stuff for the ideas not the grammar. Tim is not an english teacher. He just makes $$$ for his readers. Pay attention!! If you don’t like $$$ then go read this every day instead http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammar

    Enjoy!

  • http://www.jamesfowlkes.com Good Mutual Funds

    Bulls Make Money, Bears Make Money, Pigs Get Slaughtered!
    Oh and Tim is right,… Long term Bears get slaughtered too.

    Adam,
    Quit yer whining and read Tim’s stuff for the ideas not the grammar. Tim is not an english teacher. He just makes $$$ for his readers. Pay attention!! If you don’t like $$$ then go read this every day instead http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammar

    Enjoy!

  • http://test.timothysykes.com Timothy Sykes

    Adam, when u work as hard as i do with so many instructional dvds, daily watchlists, trades, emails, blog posts, websites in development while trying to have a life so as not to burn out then u can comment. for now my free blog is dead last in importance of things i spend time on, u want perfect grammar quality, get one of my premium products…not to mention who gives a shit, its about the concepts contained u uptight finance freak!

  • http://test.timothysykes.com Timothy Sykes

    Adam, when u work as hard as i do with so many instructional dvds, daily watchlists, trades, emails, blog posts, websites in development while trying to have a life so as not to burn out then u can comment. for now my free blog is dead last in importance of things i spend time on, u want perfect grammar quality, get one of my premium products…not to mention who gives a shit, its about the concepts contained u uptight finance freak!

  • Adam

    JackChap,

    That’s the thing! I do like the blog. Tim is obviously talented at what he does and driven to do it well. If he spent an extra five minutes proofreading his posts people would recognize this more readily and he would be as successful at blogging as he is at trading. It just doesn’t match his personality to slack at any aspect of running his business. After months of parsing through sloppy posts, I though maybe I’d speak up and bring some attention to the issue.

  • Adam

    JackChap,

    That’s the thing! I do like the blog. Tim is obviously talented at what he does and driven to do it well. If he spent an extra five minutes proofreading his posts people would recognize this more readily and he would be as successful at blogging as he is at trading. It just doesn’t match his personality to slack at any aspect of running his business. After months of parsing through sloppy posts, I though maybe I’d speak up and bring some attention to the issue.

  • Penny

    Tim,

    You are a dick.

  • Penny

    Tim,

    You are a dick.

  • http://test.timothysykes.com Timothy Sykes

    Penny, everyone in the stock market is a dick…except i’m a dick who helps u learn

  • http://test.timothysykes.com Timothy Sykes

    Penny, everyone in the stock market is a dick…except i’m a dick who helps u learn

  • Adam

    Tim,

    You are obviously a hard worker, and I respect that. So why not step up and polish off the main channel through which new readers and potential customers encounter your work?

    Your suggestion that I buy one of your premium products is evidence that you’re aware of the value of good presentation. So you clearly understand my point. And I understand that you’re busy and that your blog is a low priority. But you’d sell more DVD’s if the people who consume your free content saw you in a better light. You’re selling yourself in your blog.

    Marketing 101: Content AND delivery.

    I know it’s poor form to call you out like this, Tim. In retrospect I should have sent you an email. I mean no disrepect. Just think about what I’m saying.

  • Adam

    Tim,

    You are obviously a hard worker, and I respect that. So why not step up and polish off the main channel through which new readers and potential customers encounter your work?

    Your suggestion that I buy one of your premium products is evidence that you’re aware of the value of good presentation. So you clearly understand my point. And I understand that you’re busy and that your blog is a low priority. But you’d sell more DVD’s if the people who consume your free content saw you in a better light. You’re selling yourself in your blog.

    Marketing 101: Content AND delivery.

    I know it’s poor form to call you out like this, Tim. In retrospect I should have sent you an email. I mean no disrepect. Just think about what I’m saying.

  • Adam

    BTW, I’m not talking about style. You put a lot of emotion into your writing, which is great. If you paid attention to the basics – spelling, punctuation, capitalization, not leaving out essential words – you would be even more accessible to your readers.

  • Adam

    BTW, I’m not talking about style. You put a lot of emotion into your writing, which is great. If you paid attention to the basics – spelling, punctuation, capitalization, not leaving out essential words – you would be even more accessible to your readers.

  • http://test.timothysykes.com Timothy Sykes

    Adam:

    1. if grammar’s gonna stop people from buying my products/reading my blog, i dont want them as customers/readers…waaay too many uptight finance freaks, i dont get along with them, never will

    2. i dont care about disrespect, me or anyone else, its time we all stop being so friggin polite…learn to be REAL

    3. poor grammar actually help sales because it shows i’m real, not some polished snakeoil salesman. my 26% gain int he last 18 months might be impressive but its REAL and the path isnt always pretty.

    4. stop wasting my time to have to explain myself, this isn’t the 1st grammar convo, nor will it be the last

  • http://test.timothysykes.com Timothy Sykes

    Adam:

    1. if grammar’s gonna stop people from buying my products/reading my blog, i dont want them as customers/readers…waaay too many uptight finance freaks, i dont get along with them, never will

    2. i dont care about disrespect, me or anyone else, its time we all stop being so friggin polite…learn to be REAL

    3. poor grammar actually help sales because it shows i’m real, not some polished snakeoil salesman. my 26% gain int he last 18 months might be impressive but its REAL and the path isnt always pretty.

    4. stop wasting my time to have to explain myself, this isn’t the 1st grammar convo, nor will it be the last

  • Dan

    Tim don’t open the attachment! :)

  • Dan

    Tim don’t open the attachment! :)

  • Adam

    1. It’s a business, not a lunch table.
    2. Respect is the cornerstone of social order. We all want it, we all need it. That will never change. It’s human nature.
    3. Poor grammar does not help your sales. That is the rationalization you use to avoid the hard (for you, apparently) task of proofreading.
    4. If people keep telling you over and over that your grammar sucks, maybe you should start listening to them.
    5. Everybody proofreads everything. You’re being ridiculous.

  • Adam

    1. It’s a business, not a lunch table.
    2. Respect is the cornerstone of social order. We all want it, we all need it. That will never change. It’s human nature.
    3. Poor grammar does not help your sales. That is the rationalization you use to avoid the hard (for you, apparently) task of proofreading.
    4. If people keep telling you over and over that your grammar sucks, maybe you should start listening to them.
    5. Everybody proofreads everything. You’re being ridiculous.

  • Osti

    The psychology of a debate: The loser will avert the main topic ($$$) to expose a weakness (grammar) in order to gain leverage. Unfortunately for Dan, this isn’t a periodical section of your local library.

  • Osti

    The psychology of a debate: The loser will avert the main topic ($$$) to expose a weakness (grammar) in order to gain leverage. Unfortunately for Dan, this isn’t a periodical section of your local library.

  • http://test.timothysykes.com Timothy Sykes

    1. adam, whatd i say about continuing to waste my time?
    2. respect in this joke of an industry is an illusion in order to mislead, i wont be a part of it
    3. actually u’d be surprised how many customers specifically mention they like the lack of grammar
    4. 2-3 uptight nerds complain, they’re back at the library now telling themselves they’ll never learn from blogs
    5. “everybody proofreads everything” I’m not everybody dick
    6. suck on this ungrammatical site http://icanhascheezburger.com/ its got just a few people reading it YEAH U LIKE THAT U LITTLE SISSY VALUE INVESTOR DONT YA! NOW GO RUN OFF AND CRY TO MOMMY

  • http://test.timothysykes.com Timothy Sykes

    1. adam, whatd i say about continuing to waste my time?
    2. respect in this joke of an industry is an illusion in order to mislead, i wont be a part of it
    3. actually u’d be surprised how many customers specifically mention they like the lack of grammar
    4. 2-3 uptight nerds complain, they’re back at the library now telling themselves they’ll never learn from blogs
    5. “everybody proofreads everything” I’m not everybody dick
    6. suck on this ungrammatical site http://icanhascheezburger.com/ its got just a few people reading it YEAH U LIKE THAT U LITTLE SISSY VALUE INVESTOR DONT YA! NOW GO RUN OFF AND CRY TO MOMMY

  • pipmaestro

    Adam, regarding your post at 10:58 AM, the correct spelling is “thought” not “though”. Have a lovely day ;)

  • pipmaestro

    Adam, regarding your post at 10:58 AM, the correct spelling is “thought” not “though”. Have a lovely day ;)

  • http://www.goodevalue.com/2009/04/10/writing-to-the-sec-about-the-proposed-uptick-upbid-rules/ Reaper

    Sorry Tim, I have to agree with Adam that grammar and spelling matter. You could always get an intern to proof your posts. It really is not that hard.

  • http://www.goodevalue.com/2009/04/10/writing-to-the-sec-about-the-proposed-uptick-upbid-rules/ Reaper

    Sorry Tim, I have to agree with Adam that grammar and spelling matter. You could always get an intern to proof your posts. It really is not that hard.

  • Michael Goode

    Arrgh Tim your dumb blog is not posting my comments. Yay grammar!

  • Michael Goode

    Arrgh Tim your dumb blog is not posting my comments. Yay grammar!

  • Adam

    1. I’m not wasting your time. I’m providing solid advice that you’ll probably implement some time in the future when you mellow out.
    2. Oh please. Finance isn’t above (or beneath, as it were) respect.
    3. If you had decent grammar I’m sure nobody would complain. If they did, wouldn’t that REALLY be wasting your time?
    4. Nerd? Dude, just use spell-check for fuck’s sake.
    5. Actually, claiming you are not everybody is logically inconsistent. Everybody is everybody.
    6. Haha, Icanhascheezburger is great.

    Pipmaestro, touche. But seriously, 99% ain’t bad.

  • Adam

    1. I’m not wasting your time. I’m providing solid advice that you’ll probably implement some time in the future when you mellow out.
    2. Oh please. Finance isn’t above (or beneath, as it were) respect.
    3. If you had decent grammar I’m sure nobody would complain. If they did, wouldn’t that REALLY be wasting your time?
    4. Nerd? Dude, just use spell-check for fuck’s sake.
    5. Actually, claiming you are not everybody is logically inconsistent. Everybody is everybody.
    6. Haha, Icanhascheezburger is great.

    Pipmaestro, touche. But seriously, 99% ain’t bad.

  • http://test.timothysykes.com Timothy Sykes

    zzzzzzz this went form entertaining to boring, adam, write your own blog to get attention

  • http://test.timothysykes.com Timothy Sykes

    zzzzzzz this went form entertaining to boring, adam, write your own blog to get attention

  • HopeSolo

    I love terrible grammar! Keep it up Tim! Adam, go read Cramer’s grammatically correct grammar.

  • HopeSolo

    I love terrible grammar! Keep it up Tim! Adam, go read Cramer’s grammatically correct grammar.

  • Adam

    Yeah? WELL I SLEPT WITH YOUR WIFE?!

    Hahaha . . . Anyone, anyone?

  • Adam

    Yeah? WELL I SLEPT WITH YOUR WIFE?!

    Hahaha . . . Anyone, anyone?

  • http://emillionaireprofitsystem.com Make Money On Line

    This is very entertaining keep it up, only those that listen to the BS are the ones who lose. And everyone in the stock market is not a dick!

  • http://emillionaireprofitsystem.com Make Money On Line

    This is very entertaining keep it up, only those that listen to the BS are the ones who lose. And everyone in the stock market is not a dick!

  • HopeSolo

    Banhammer? Please.

  • HopeSolo

    Banhammer? Please.

  • Dan

    ( ( )8///////D~~~~~~~~~~~*Adams mouth*

  • Dan

    ( ( )8///////D~~~~~~~~~~~*Adams mouth*

  • JoJo

    Adam,
    you little whiny bitch! Are you a spelling bee champ or something? It’s about the content you wannabe intellectual fuck! Why don’t you get off the TIM site and go drink yourself to a silly stupor with your other broke ass friends and have even more boring conversations about spelling bees, social order and business 101 you fu-king asshole! By the way, what are your returns this year? At the end of the day profits are what pay in this business, not spelling beeeyaatch! When you figure it out and get a life, maybe you’ll get some respect. Now get out of the library, go on a vacation, read tim’s blog without hesitation and come back a better man!

  • JoJo

    Adam,
    you little whiny bitch! Are you a spelling bee champ or something? It’s about the content you wannabe intellectual fuck! Why don’t you get off the TIM site and go drink yourself to a silly stupor with your other broke ass friends and have even more boring conversations about spelling bees, social order and business 101 you fu-king asshole! By the way, what are your returns this year? At the end of the day profits are what pay in this business, not spelling beeeyaatch! When you figure it out and get a life, maybe you’ll get some respect. Now get out of the library, go on a vacation, read tim’s blog without hesitation and come back a better man!

  • Adam

    This is completely futile because I made it public. No way is Tim going to concede on a message board like this. I wouldn’t. But I bet he’s wondering, right now, if I might be right . . .

    All those out of work college grads looking for the light . . . with money to invest
    . . . who value clear communication.

    Seriously, it’s not just a few mistakes here and there. The content is actually difficult to read.

  • Adam

    This is completely futile because I made it public. No way is Tim going to concede on a message board like this. I wouldn’t. But I bet he’s wondering, right now, if I might be right . . .

    All those out of work college grads looking for the light . . . with money to invest
    . . . who value clear communication.

    Seriously, it’s not just a few mistakes here and there. The content is actually difficult to read.

  • Adam

    JoJo,

    You’re intense!

  • Adam

    JoJo,

    You’re intense!

  • JoJo

    Wow Adam you’re still hanging around TIM’s site huh? And maybe I overestimated your intellectual horsepower….this content is extremely easy to understand if you have any understanding of finance which clearly you’re struggling with. Maybe you better get back to the library and check out some finance books…or make Timmmmay happy and buy some DVD’s or something. Start learning and then come play with the big kids.

  • JoJo

    Wow Adam you’re still hanging around TIM’s site huh? And maybe I overestimated your intellectual horsepower….this content is extremely easy to understand if you have any understanding of finance which clearly you’re struggling with. Maybe you better get back to the library and check out some finance books…or make Timmmmay happy and buy some DVD’s or something. Start learning and then come play with the big kids.

  • Adam

    JoJo,

    I didn’t say the content was difficult to understand, I said that it was difficult to read. Yes, Tim’s concepts are very simple.

    The library cliche is weak.

    And, no, I’m not hanging around. I get an email with every post. Don’t you?

  • Adam

    JoJo,

    I didn’t say the content was difficult to understand, I said that it was difficult to read. Yes, Tim’s concepts are very simple.

    The library cliche is weak.

    And, no, I’m not hanging around. I get an email with every post. Don’t you?

  • YoungGunz

    This one of the dumbest debates I’ve read in a long time. Adam I think we all get that you’re a grammar Nazi you can stop now. The majority of the population does not share your strict compulsion for proper spelling and grammar.

  • YoungGunz

    This one of the dumbest debates I’ve read in a long time. Adam I think we all get that you’re a grammar Nazi you can stop now. The majority of the population does not share your strict compulsion for proper spelling and grammar.

  • otss

    We’re sitting here, and I’m supposed to be the teacher about stocks, and we’re talking about GRAMMAR. I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about GRAMMAR, not a trade, not a stock, not the DVDs, but we’re talking about GRAMMAR. Not the market that I go out there and die for and trade every PENNY like it’s my last but we’re talking about GRAMMAR man. How silly is that?

    Now I know that I’m supposed to lead by example and all that but I’m not shoving that aside like it don’t mean anything. I know it’s important, I honestly do but we’re talking about GRAMMAR. We’re talking about GRAMMAR man. (laughter from the TimAlerts Subscribers) We’re talking about GRAMMAR. We’re talking about GRAMMAR. We’re not talking about the stocks. We’re talking about GRAMMAR. When you come to the computer, and you see me trade, you’ve seen my DVDs right, you’ve seen me give everything I’ve got, but we’re talking about GRAMMAR right now.

    -Tim’s version of Allen Iverson “Practice” Interview

  • otss

    We’re sitting here, and I’m supposed to be the teacher about stocks, and we’re talking about GRAMMAR. I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about GRAMMAR, not a trade, not a stock, not the DVDs, but we’re talking about GRAMMAR. Not the market that I go out there and die for and trade every PENNY like it’s my last but we’re talking about GRAMMAR man. How silly is that?

    Now I know that I’m supposed to lead by example and all that but I’m not shoving that aside like it don’t mean anything. I know it’s important, I honestly do but we’re talking about GRAMMAR. We’re talking about GRAMMAR man. (laughter from the TimAlerts Subscribers) We’re talking about GRAMMAR. We’re talking about GRAMMAR. We’re not talking about the stocks. We’re talking about GRAMMAR. When you come to the computer, and you see me trade, you’ve seen my DVDs right, you’ve seen me give everything I’ve got, but we’re talking about GRAMMAR right now.

    -Tim’s version of Allen Iverson “Practice” Interview

  • Adam

    otss – Can I point out the irony of the fact that you typed a two-paragraph COMMENT with almost perfect grammar and not one spelling mistake. Not too difficult, is it? Good for you.

  • Adam

    otss – Can I point out the irony of the fact that you typed a two-paragraph COMMENT with almost perfect grammar and not one spelling mistake. Not too difficult, is it? Good for you.