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		<title>By: Lloyd</title>
		<link>http://www.timothysykes.com/2008/09/bill-gross-grosses-17-billion-profit-in-one-day-now-thats-a-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-32817</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 00:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What goes up $1.7b one day on a Fannie/Freddie bet . . . also comes down $1.8b another day on an AIG gamble.  Such is volatility in these emotion-filled times of ours.  Here&#039;s the Bloomberg article:


Gross&#039;s Total Return Falls the Most in Three Years (Update1)

By Matthew Keenan

Sept. 17 (Bloomberg) -- Bill Gross&#039;s Pimco Total Return Fund, the world&#039;s largest bond fund, fell 1.4 percent yesterday, the biggest one-day decline in more than three years, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.

The loss, which compared with the 0.38 percent drop by the benchmark Lehman Brothers Aggregate Bond Index, came as the U.S. government moved to seize American International Group Inc., the largest U.S. insurer. The fund guaranteed $760 million of AIG debt as of June 30, part of a larger bet by Gross that some beaten-down corporate bonds will recover because they are too important for the government to let fail.

``It&#039;s not surprising to see some gyrations in a fund like Pimco Total Return,&#039;&#039; said Lawrence Jones, a senior mutual-fund analyst with Chicago-based Morningstar Inc. ``We&#039;re clearly not under normal market conditions now.&#039;&#039;

Yesterday&#039;s decline was the most since Pimco Total Return&#039;s net asset value dropped by 3 percent on Dec. 13, 2004, when investors received short- and long-term capital gains dividends of about 33 cents a share.

Mark Porterfield, a Pimco spokesman, wasn&#039;t immediately available for comment.

Pimco Total Return gained 1.3 percent on Sept. 8 after the U.S. took control of mortgage-finance companies Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. The increase exceeded the advance of the Lehman Brothers index by about 0.5 percentage point, its best performance against the benchmark.

The fund, run by Pacific Investment Management Co. of Newport Beach, California, had $132.3 billion in assets as of Aug. 29.

Beats Rival Funds

Gross&#039;s fund has fallen 2.3 percent since Sept. 8, reducing the gain this year to 2.8 percent. It ranks ahead of 92 percent of similarly managed funds, Bloomberg data show.

Gross, 64, Pimco&#039;s co-chief investment officer, has made successful bets on mortgage-backed securities, Morningstar&#039;s Jones said. About 65 percent of the fund&#039;s holdings were mortgage-backed securities on June 30.

Gross also favored bonds of corporations that were ``under the Fed umbrella,&#039;&#039; meaning they were so big or important to the U.S. or global financial markets that the government couldn&#039;t allow them to fail, Jones said.

The fund has ``held up well under some extraordinary conditions,&#039;&#039; Jones said.

To contact the reporter on this story: Matthe
w Keenan in Boston at mkeenan6@bloomberg.net.
Last Updated: September 17, 2008 17:04 EDT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What goes up $1.7b one day on a Fannie/Freddie bet . . . also comes down $1.8b another day on an AIG gamble.  Such is volatility in these emotion-filled times of ours.  Here&#8217;s the Bloomberg article:</p>
<p>Gross&#8217;s Total Return Falls the Most in Three Years (Update1)</p>
<p>By Matthew Keenan</p>
<p>Sept. 17 (Bloomberg) &#8212; Bill Gross&#8217;s Pimco Total Return Fund, the world&#8217;s largest bond fund, fell 1.4 percent yesterday, the biggest one-day decline in more than three years, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.</p>
<p>The loss, which compared with the 0.38 percent drop by the benchmark Lehman Brothers Aggregate Bond Index, came as the U.S. government moved to seize American International Group Inc., the largest U.S. insurer. The fund guaranteed $760 million of AIG debt as of June 30, part of a larger bet by Gross that some beaten-down corporate bonds will recover because they are too important for the government to let fail.</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s not surprising to see some gyrations in a fund like Pimco Total Return,&#8221; said Lawrence Jones, a senior mutual-fund analyst with Chicago-based Morningstar Inc. &#8220;We&#8217;re clearly not under normal market conditions now.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yesterday&#8217;s decline was the most since Pimco Total Return&#8217;s net asset value dropped by 3 percent on Dec. 13, 2004, when investors received short- and long-term capital gains dividends of about 33 cents a share.</p>
<p>Mark Porterfield, a Pimco spokesman, wasn&#8217;t immediately available for comment.</p>
<p>Pimco Total Return gained 1.3 percent on Sept. 8 after the U.S. took control of mortgage-finance companies Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. The increase exceeded the advance of the Lehman Brothers index by about 0.5 percentage point, its best performance against the benchmark.</p>
<p>The fund, run by Pacific Investment Management Co. of Newport Beach, California, had $132.3 billion in assets as of Aug. 29.</p>
<p>Beats Rival Funds</p>
<p>Gross&#8217;s fund has fallen 2.3 percent since Sept. 8, reducing the gain this year to 2.8 percent. It ranks ahead of 92 percent of similarly managed funds, Bloomberg data show.</p>
<p>Gross, 64, Pimco&#8217;s co-chief investment officer, has made successful bets on mortgage-backed securities, Morningstar&#8217;s Jones said. About 65 percent of the fund&#8217;s holdings were mortgage-backed securities on June 30.</p>
<p>Gross also favored bonds of corporations that were &#8220;under the Fed umbrella,&#8221; meaning they were so big or important to the U.S. or global financial markets that the government couldn&#8217;t allow them to fail, Jones said.</p>
<p>The fund has &#8220;held up well under some extraordinary conditions,&#8221; Jones said.</p>
<p>To contact the reporter on this story: Matthe<br />
w Keenan in Boston at <a href="mailto:mkeenan6@bloomberg.net">mkeenan6@bloomberg.net</a>.<br />
Last Updated: September 17, 2008 17:04 EDT</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd</title>
		<link>http://www.timothysykes.com/2008/09/bill-gross-grosses-17-billion-profit-in-one-day-now-thats-a-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-76425</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 00:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What goes up $1.7b one day on a Fannie/Freddie bet . . . also comes down $1.8b another day on an AIG gamble.  Such is volatility in these emotion-filled times of ours.  Here&#039;s the Bloomberg article:


Gross&#039;s Total Return Falls the Most in Three Years (Update1)

By Matthew Keenan

Sept. 17 (Bloomberg) -- Bill Gross&#039;s Pimco Total Return Fund, the world&#039;s largest bond fund, fell 1.4 percent yesterday, the biggest one-day decline in more than three years, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.

The loss, which compared with the 0.38 percent drop by the benchmark Lehman Brothers Aggregate Bond Index, came as the U.S. government moved to seize American International Group Inc., the largest U.S. insurer. The fund guaranteed $760 million of AIG debt as of June 30, part of a larger bet by Gross that some beaten-down corporate bonds will recover because they are too important for the government to let fail.

``It&#039;s not surprising to see some gyrations in a fund like Pimco Total Return,&#039;&#039; said Lawrence Jones, a senior mutual-fund analyst with Chicago-based Morningstar Inc. ``We&#039;re clearly not under normal market conditions now.&#039;&#039;

Yesterday&#039;s decline was the most since Pimco Total Return&#039;s net asset value dropped by 3 percent on Dec. 13, 2004, when investors received short- and long-term capital gains dividends of about 33 cents a share.

Mark Porterfield, a Pimco spokesman, wasn&#039;t immediately available for comment.

Pimco Total Return gained 1.3 percent on Sept. 8 after the U.S. took control of mortgage-finance companies Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. The increase exceeded the advance of the Lehman Brothers index by about 0.5 percentage point, its best performance against the benchmark.

The fund, run by Pacific Investment Management Co. of Newport Beach, California, had $132.3 billion in assets as of Aug. 29.

Beats Rival Funds

Gross&#039;s fund has fallen 2.3 percent since Sept. 8, reducing the gain this year to 2.8 percent. It ranks ahead of 92 percent of similarly managed funds, Bloomberg data show.

Gross, 64, Pimco&#039;s co-chief investment officer, has made successful bets on mortgage-backed securities, Morningstar&#039;s Jones said. About 65 percent of the fund&#039;s holdings were mortgage-backed securities on June 30.

Gross also favored bonds of corporations that were ``under the Fed umbrella,&#039;&#039; meaning they were so big or important to the U.S. or global financial markets that the government couldn&#039;t allow them to fail, Jones said.

The fund has ``held up well under some extraordinary conditions,&#039;&#039; Jones said.

To contact the reporter on this story: Matthe
w Keenan in Boston at mkeenan6@bloomberg.net.
Last Updated: September 17, 2008 17:04 EDT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What goes up $1.7b one day on a Fannie/Freddie bet . . . also comes down $1.8b another day on an AIG gamble.  Such is volatility in these emotion-filled times of ours.  Here&#8217;s the Bloomberg article:</p>
<p>Gross&#8217;s Total Return Falls the Most in Three Years (Update1)</p>
<p>By Matthew Keenan</p>
<p>Sept. 17 (Bloomberg) &#8212; Bill Gross&#8217;s Pimco Total Return Fund, the world&#8217;s largest bond fund, fell 1.4 percent yesterday, the biggest one-day decline in more than three years, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.</p>
<p>The loss, which compared with the 0.38 percent drop by the benchmark Lehman Brothers Aggregate Bond Index, came as the U.S. government moved to seize American International Group Inc., the largest U.S. insurer. The fund guaranteed $760 million of AIG debt as of June 30, part of a larger bet by Gross that some beaten-down corporate bonds will recover because they are too important for the government to let fail.</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s not surprising to see some gyrations in a fund like Pimco Total Return,&#8221; said Lawrence Jones, a senior mutual-fund analyst with Chicago-based Morningstar Inc. &#8220;We&#8217;re clearly not under normal market conditions now.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yesterday&#8217;s decline was the most since Pimco Total Return&#8217;s net asset value dropped by 3 percent on Dec. 13, 2004, when investors received short- and long-term capital gains dividends of about 33 cents a share.</p>
<p>Mark Porterfield, a Pimco spokesman, wasn&#8217;t immediately available for comment.</p>
<p>Pimco Total Return gained 1.3 percent on Sept. 8 after the U.S. took control of mortgage-finance companies Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. The increase exceeded the advance of the Lehman Brothers index by about 0.5 percentage point, its best performance against the benchmark.</p>
<p>The fund, run by Pacific Investment Management Co. of Newport Beach, California, had $132.3 billion in assets as of Aug. 29.</p>
<p>Beats Rival Funds</p>
<p>Gross&#8217;s fund has fallen 2.3 percent since Sept. 8, reducing the gain this year to 2.8 percent. It ranks ahead of 92 percent of similarly managed funds, Bloomberg data show.</p>
<p>Gross, 64, Pimco&#8217;s co-chief investment officer, has made successful bets on mortgage-backed securities, Morningstar&#8217;s Jones said. About 65 percent of the fund&#8217;s holdings were mortgage-backed securities on June 30.</p>
<p>Gross also favored bonds of corporations that were &#8220;under the Fed umbrella,&#8221; meaning they were so big or important to the U.S. or global financial markets that the government couldn&#8217;t allow them to fail, Jones said.</p>
<p>The fund has &#8220;held up well under some extraordinary conditions,&#8221; Jones said.</p>
<p>To contact the reporter on this story: Matthe<br />
w Keenan in Boston at <a href="mailto:mkeenan6@bloomberg.net">mkeenan6@bloomberg.net</a>.<br />
Last Updated: September 17, 2008 17:04 EDT</p>
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		<title>By: StockRake</title>
		<link>http://www.timothysykes.com/2008/09/bill-gross-grosses-17-billion-profit-in-one-day-now-thats-a-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-32818</link>
		<dc:creator>StockRake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 02:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Diversification is for amateurs...&quot;
The best traders lay it out there when their signals tell them so. Bill&#039;s signals told him to be in that position (whatever you want to declare a signal).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Diversification is for amateurs&#8230;&#8221;<br />
The best traders lay it out there when their signals tell them so. Bill&#8217;s signals told him to be in that position (whatever you want to declare a signal).</p>
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		<title>By: StockRake</title>
		<link>http://www.timothysykes.com/2008/09/bill-gross-grosses-17-billion-profit-in-one-day-now-thats-a-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-76426</link>
		<dc:creator>StockRake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 02:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.test.timothysykes.com/?p=1887#comment-76426</guid>
		<description>&quot;Diversification is for amateurs...&quot;
The best traders lay it out there when their signals tell them so. Bill&#039;s signals told him to be in that position (whatever you want to declare a signal).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Diversification is for amateurs&#8230;&#8221;<br />
The best traders lay it out there when their signals tell them so. Bill&#8217;s signals told him to be in that position (whatever you want to declare a signal).</p>
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		<title>By: ivegotstylekid</title>
		<link>http://www.timothysykes.com/2008/09/bill-gross-grosses-17-billion-profit-in-one-day-now-thats-a-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-32819</link>
		<dc:creator>ivegotstylekid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 02:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nows thats a paycheck! this guys pretty damn smart, anyone think his head is absolutely huge? see him on cnbc all the time</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nows thats a paycheck! this guys pretty damn smart, anyone think his head is absolutely huge? see him on cnbc all the time</p>
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		<title>By: ivegotstylekid</title>
		<link>http://www.timothysykes.com/2008/09/bill-gross-grosses-17-billion-profit-in-one-day-now-thats-a-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-76427</link>
		<dc:creator>ivegotstylekid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 02:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nows thats a paycheck! this guys pretty damn smart, anyone think his head is absolutely huge? see him on cnbc all the time</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nows thats a paycheck! this guys pretty damn smart, anyone think his head is absolutely huge? see him on cnbc all the time</p>
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		<title>By: Teddy</title>
		<link>http://www.timothysykes.com/2008/09/bill-gross-grosses-17-billion-profit-in-one-day-now-thats-a-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-32816</link>
		<dc:creator>Teddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 21:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AllianceBernstein LP (another money manager with around $800 billion AUM) ramped up their position in Frannie and Freddie common stock last quarter to 12.5% and 6.5% of the companies  respectively:

http://moneycentral.msn.com/ownership?Symbol=FNM
http://moneycentral.msn.com/ownership?Symbol=FRE

They probably had a pretty bad day!!!

Just goes to show that you can still be right in theory (FNM and FRE are too big to fail), but still lose your shirt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AllianceBernstein LP (another money manager with around $800 billion AUM) ramped up their position in Frannie and Freddie common stock last quarter to 12.5% and 6.5% of the companies  respectively:</p>
<p><a href="http://moneycentral.msn.com/ownership?Symbol=FNM" rel="nofollow">http://moneycentral.msn.com/ownership?Symbol=FNM</a><br />
<a href="http://moneycentral.msn.com/ownership?Symbol=FRE" rel="nofollow">http://moneycentral.msn.com/ownership?Symbol=FRE</a></p>
<p>They probably had a pretty bad day!!!</p>
<p>Just goes to show that you can still be right in theory (FNM and FRE are too big to fail), but still lose your shirt.</p>
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		<title>By: Teddy</title>
		<link>http://www.timothysykes.com/2008/09/bill-gross-grosses-17-billion-profit-in-one-day-now-thats-a-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-76424</link>
		<dc:creator>Teddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 21:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AllianceBernstein LP (another money manager with around $800 billion AUM) ramped up their position in Frannie and Freddie common stock last quarter to 12.5% and 6.5% of the companies  respectively:

http://moneycentral.msn.com/ownership?Symbol=FNM
http://moneycentral.msn.com/ownership?Symbol=FRE

They probably had a pretty bad day!!!

Just goes to show that you can still be right in theory (FNM and FRE are too big to fail), but still lose your shirt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AllianceBernstein LP (another money manager with around $800 billion AUM) ramped up their position in Frannie and Freddie common stock last quarter to 12.5% and 6.5% of the companies  respectively:</p>
<p><a href="http://moneycentral.msn.com/ownership?Symbol=FNM" rel="nofollow">http://moneycentral.msn.com/ownership?Symbol=FNM</a><br />
<a href="http://moneycentral.msn.com/ownership?Symbol=FRE" rel="nofollow">http://moneycentral.msn.com/ownership?Symbol=FRE</a></p>
<p>They probably had a pretty bad day!!!</p>
<p>Just goes to show that you can still be right in theory (FNM and FRE are too big to fail), but still lose your shirt.</p>
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		<title>By: Teddy</title>
		<link>http://www.timothysykes.com/2008/09/bill-gross-grosses-17-billion-profit-in-one-day-now-thats-a-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-32815</link>
		<dc:creator>Teddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 21:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PIMCO has around $830 Billion AUM (http://www.pimco.com/LeftNav/AboutPIMCO/Milestones.htm)

I don&#039;t think you shorting pennystocks would work with that kinda capital.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PIMCO has around $830 Billion AUM (<a href="http://www.pimco.com/LeftNav/AboutPIMCO/Milestones.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.pimco.com/LeftNav/AboutPIMCO/Milestones.htm</a>)</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think you shorting pennystocks would work with that kinda capital.</p>
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		<title>By: Teddy</title>
		<link>http://www.timothysykes.com/2008/09/bill-gross-grosses-17-billion-profit-in-one-day-now-thats-a-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-76423</link>
		<dc:creator>Teddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 21:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.test.timothysykes.com/?p=1887#comment-76423</guid>
		<description>PIMCO has around $830 Billion AUM (http://www.pimco.com/LeftNav/AboutPIMCO/Milestones.htm)

I don&#039;t think you shorting pennystocks would work with that kinda capital.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PIMCO has around $830 Billion AUM (<a href="http://www.pimco.com/LeftNav/AboutPIMCO/Milestones.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.pimco.com/LeftNav/AboutPIMCO/Milestones.htm</a>)</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think you shorting pennystocks would work with that kinda capital.</p>
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