Why Speculative Commodity Plays Are Different Than Pump & Dumps
PennyStocking students understand that while the Supernova chart patterns on commodity plays like Pyramid Oil Company (PDO), Fieldpoint Petroleum Corporation (FPP), Royale Energy, Inc. (ROYL) and Mexco Energy Corporation (MXC) make them seem like they’ll just continue to collapse for weeks and months just like your typical pump and dumps like KENTUCKY USA ENERGY INC (KYUS), FORCE ENERGY CORP (FORC) and BIOSHAFT WTR TECHNOLOGY INC (BSHF), they don’t.
Because their prices are tied to something much more real than spam, something many people call “black gold”. And as you can see from the charts below, some are barely bouncing (PDO) and (FPP), while others are actually breaking out to new highs (ROYL).
However you play ‘em, long or short, short-term or long-term, recognize this one basic truth and you’ll be much better prepared for the volatility that is to come. Me, I’d be short KYUS, BSHF and FORC long-term if I could find the shares…these oil plays I won’t short again until they either go up too any days in a row again or, ideally, when they crack their recent lows, a hugely bearish sign that would prove these spikes are just temporary.
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1TomT
June 2nd, 2008 at 12:15 pm
woohoo.. great job Tim.. look like we back up.. FPP is having a nice run up.. I wonder if I can long this til tomorrow, since I have already met my “day trading” for the week. So All I can do now is trade, hold then sell the following day.
still waiting for my TOS account to be setup.
2Scott
June 2nd, 2008 at 12:19 pm
Tim, thank you for bring back the website alive again. Superman’s trick didn’t work today, NTI fell as low as $15.53, I covered today for a goooooooooooood profit, but still watching it and have reserved shares if it weakens further. Thanks for bringing out difference between fluffs and commodity play. As soon as “H” word was mentioned, oil price went back up, all PDO, MXC, FPP and ROYL started taking off, I am taking long position on these craps now and unbelievably higher already. Let’s ride the tide upside and we will bring it down when the time will be right again. Good luck to you all!
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4timothysykes
June 2nd, 2008 at 12:35 pm
nice scott, i couldnt find any shares to short this morning :(
5JeffMoates(TIMBUCKS: $258)
June 2nd, 2008 at 12:47 pm
Shorted ACOR at 28.46 for an afternoon fade.
6Al
June 2nd, 2008 at 1:05 pm
anyone check out BEXP today?
Tim,
Made ~$200 on my LGND trade. Shorted on friday covered today
7Alex
June 2nd, 2008 at 1:10 pm
Coal play NCOC also up today and maybe a breakout. Was hoping for a rally from CPSL but nope…shouldn’ve bought FPP instead….they both were meeting my criteria on Friday…but CPSL has better earnings so I bought that one WTF !!???!!?!?!
8JeffMoates(TIMBUCKS: $258)
June 2nd, 2008 at 1:19 pm
How’s the site going Tim? Did you guys just ghost it back to a week ago?
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June 2nd, 2008 at 1:52 pm
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12JeffMoates(TIMBUCKS: $258)
June 2nd, 2008 at 2:07 pm
So far my ACOR short is working out for me. $1/share drop. Tim, you see this dropping any further throughout the week on this lame news? I figure we’re lacking the supernova activity to justify my covering this short today. What do you guys think? Hold or Cover?
13codyhof(TIMBUCKS: $98)
June 2nd, 2008 at 2:07 pm
Thoughts on shorting into the LGND afternoon fade?
14getshorty
June 2nd, 2008 at 2:08 pm
Jeff, why you think its gonna go down after that scary gap up? I just shorted 40 shares to try and get some of the fade.
15JeffMoates(TIMBUCKS: $258)
June 2nd, 2008 at 2:13 pm
getshorty, the news on it is just a PR update on their testing of their new super drug. Woo hoo, it passed “phase II - B/2.0 , a-45 series H of the Alpha code index.” –Don’t know if that’s a real step in the process, but you get the idea. There are going to be a lot of longs looking to take their profits during this huge upswing. The way this is already performing I would not be suprised if it started down a dollar tomorrow.
16JeffMoates(TIMBUCKS: $258)
June 2nd, 2008 at 2:17 pm
yay! now down $1.50/share! congrats getshorty.
17getshorty
June 2nd, 2008 at 2:21 pm
Owe you a coffee Jeff, lets go crazy, lets make it a Venti Cappuccino… I feel like going on a spending spree !!!
18JeffMoates(TIMBUCKS: $258)
June 2nd, 2008 at 2:24 pm
lol, I just read above how many shares you shorted. My bad for the over-exuberance. I got in with 500 and am really WANTING TIM’S OPINION ON THIS PLAY…. IF HE MIGHT BE LISTENING…
19TomT
June 2nd, 2008 at 2:39 pm
TRLG seem to be down a bit now.
20getshorty
June 2nd, 2008 at 2:59 pm
Jeff, sorry to turn you down, but I can’t afford the capuccino anymore : (
Did you got to cover before the spike?
21eb(TIMBUCKS: $82)
June 2nd, 2008 at 3:03 pm
Jeff…any thoughts on LGND? You think this will continue its fade? I hope it fades into the close. Thanks.
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June 2nd, 2008 at 3:08 pm
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23timothysykes
June 2nd, 2008 at 3:10 pm
i dont short stocks like ACOR on the first day, my opinion, like yours is meaningless, much higher odds of shorting after multiple days when early shorts might get squeezed
24JeffMoates(TIMBUCKS: $258)
June 2nd, 2008 at 3:13 pm
That was one amazing spike. It will probably continue, I hate to cover for only a $100, but I would detest ending the day in the red.
eb, first of all, that ain’t no fade. Second, it has to get through a lot of buyers to go any lower (or sellers and higher for that matter). Too many possibilities. As tim would say, “not interested, don’t care”
While writing this, I covered my ACOR play for a measly 0.33 gain on 500 shares. BOO!!!