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Oops, I Did It Again, I Got Scared Out Of My Trade Too Quickly

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Oops!.. I Did It Again!
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

I think I did it again
I got scared out of my trade too quickly
Oh baby

It might seem like I’m a fool
But it doesn’t mean that I don’t know what I’m doing
‘Cause to get out too soon
That is just so typically me
Oh baby, baby

:Chorus:

Oops!…I did it again
I played this crap stock, got lost in the game
Oh baby, baby

Oops!…You think I know everything
That I’m sent from above
I’m not that great at trading

You see my problem is this
I’ve seen too many fakeouts
Wishing that perfect patterns, they truly exist
I cry, watching the days
Can’t you see I should only trade those, everything else is lost in a haze

But to lose my chance at all those profits
That is just so typically me
Baby, oh

:Chorus:

britney

My adaptation of Britney Spear’s song sums up my trade on Agfeed Industries (FEED) today. As expected, they reported solid earnings, but the solid trading volume and 5-month breakout of $12 didn’t occur until early afternoon. A much better trader than me, Fous nailed it, but I wanted to wait until closer to the market close—because with my timing skills, or lack thereof, I’d need that market close to rope me in overnight.

But when the stock broke the afternoon high of $12.40, I could wait no longer, buying 300 shares at $12.40 just after 3pm. With the stock not breaking out as quickly as I’d liked—hanging around $12.50—the market turning south and big sell blocks all above, so I sold at $12.50, taking a wimpy $20 profit. Minutes later, when the big buy blocks came in at $12.50, then $12.60, then $12.75, I knew I’d missed out yet again (although with a $13 close, the $150 in missed profits pale in comparison to my missing out on a 50% or $5+ drop of COINW in 2 days)

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So, what can I do to improve? Nothing! It could’ve easily been the latest agri fakeout breakout. I couldn’t wait ‘til the market close because then I’d wonder if that 50 cent breakout was all this stock had in it. The pattern was solid, but it wasn’t ideal. Sure, it might hit $13.50, $14 or even $14.50 tomorrow, but there’s not a high probability of the multi-dollar volatility I need to be present to make up for my timing issues—which I’ve had throughout my career, even when making the big bucks. And that’s probly how most of you are out there, too. And that’s probly why my DVD is right for most of you out there, too.

Because as you see from the somewhat corny, but potentially revolutionary (c’mon people, offer me some free products so I can promote the hell out of them and offer them to my readers!) TIMometer above, I still profited, albeit slightly, on this trade. Trading scared isn’t the end of the world, it’s actually good as it really cuts down on losses, especially when getting to an asset level that will allow me to trade freely ($25k no more pattern day trading rule!) is so crucial to my future success. Ah yes, because then I can get out with these 10 cent profits and get right back in, a few cents higher, but when the big blocks are there to support me and the breakout is no longer in question, aka my comfort level has gone up.

It’s all about comfort level and so for me, a much easier pattern coulda woulda shoulda been to short COIN on the perfectly gradual multi-day breakdown/support crack (afternoon fade) in the $11-$11.25 area, but alas, no shares borrowable again. Sad, since single digits might happen as soon as tomorrow…

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Posted in Analogies, Breakdowns, Breakouts, Decent Trades, Impatience, Patterns To Buy, Patterns To Short

  • Tony Ellis

    I had my finger on the trigger right before the big bids came in. I almost bought EFUT in AH but no way holding overnight FEED and EFUT in this market. I think EFUT could be huge tomorrow like $20.

  • timsykes

    PS to those emailing me, no shares of CVSC available to short, i don’t even think thinkorswim lets u short pink sheet stocks…this is why i root for the promoters, they gotta do better jobs at making these stocks more liquid!

  • tsa

    In afterhours at 8PM, EFUT is already traded around $15.50!!!!!!

    Keep an eye on it tomorrow at the ring bell…..

  • tsa

    Tim, do you use buyins.net researches?

  • timsykes

    sometimes i check in every now and then but i really try not to, i gotta stick to ideal plays and for those i dont really need any special software/sites

  • Sizman

    TIm, Is STV a decent short canidate? The PR put out seems like fluff, who cares if they use intel chips?

  • sgarza

    whats going on with TMA? anyone?

  • http://nooshews.blogspot.com/ Tyler Hall

    I am like, so over CVSC. Its miserably transparent little scheme has run its course. It first arrived in my mailbox, in a tidy little hototc.com newsletter. It was love at first sight (just like all the rest of the authors “big picks.”) You know the song and dance: expect the gap up, wait for the buying momentum, get in, exit on waning momentum. I mean, seriously, a man can get used to 10-40% moves in an hour or less. Hell, I’d rather start a cash-only account (of course, with margin to sidestep the free ride nazis) with $1,000 and watch it smoke my real account. I just don’t think I can bare the larger caps in this crap market.

  • lmsmith

    TMA , you missed the run on that one……… I bought 10k shares on Monday at the close .73 cents….. unloaded all yesterday at $3.40…… then I turned around and shorted 5k shares…. I haven’t unleashed yet…

  • http://www.test.timothysykes.com timothysykes

    anybody wanna be a guinea pig and see how this new premium twitter application works where u can chat with me directly during the trading day, check out:

    http://superchirp.com/timothysykes

    right now $10/month because thats their limit, but i’m guessing this will be a $500/month service if it works right, who wants to be a guinea pig for $10!

  • Spit

    I will but I’m out the office right now.

  • bill

    need to chat with you now:) still holding heb short @ 2.81 (wanted to cover but sogotrade is cheap and it doesn’t allow extended hour trading).

    $10/month sounds a good deal. how available are you going to be for chatting during the trading day?

  • ShadySam2

    RXAF is Lebed’s newest pump (he has a $15K contract for it)

  • http://www.test.timothysykes.com timothysykes

    i dunno how much we’ll be chatting, gotta see how the thing actually works, hence the guinea pig part of the equation

  • http://www.test.timothysykes.com timothysykes

    with HEB at 3.30, i hope some of u are realizing that my buy to covers are oftentimes decent buy signals too

  • http://www.test.timothysykes.com timothysykes

    bill, why hold, i would have covered right at the open if i were u, never open yourself up to being short into a potential morning spike

  • bill

    covered at 3.15 (-$102 loss this time, why couldn’t I waited for now. it’s $2.9 now while I’m typing).

    still, the net profit on shorting HEB is $417

  • bill

    tim, i didn’t intend to hold. I understand the big risk. however, sogotrade messed my sell order up because of their lousy interface. I’ll open a sogoelite account with this lesson.

  • bill

    stock preacher stock is NGHI!

  • be the ball

    crappy stockpreacher pump, NGHI

  • be the ball

    not playing NGHI, don’t like the chart, will short if it spikes enough

  • http://www.kabam.com tbohen

    out 1/2 my AGEN +1000ish

  • http://www.kabam.com tbohen

    Playing it like a castrated choir boy, but full out AGEN on that weak uptick.

    +$1760.00

    But I lost $600 on it last week, when I foolishly chickened out. With a little paitience I could have been in $2.50ish and out $1.80ish…

  • http://www.kabam.com tbohen

    I tried pointing this out during the seminar this weekend, if you bored check the yahoo finance boards on AGEN, I almost feel bad for the dumb bastards….

  • be the ball

    Stockpreacher, $65K to promote NGHI, they managed to move it .05

    what a joke

  • darkseraph

    where/how do those guys even find clients

  • bill

    AGEN has support level @ 1.5. but it already tanked a lot.

  • bill

    damn. now XTNT has shares to short, after 22% down.

  • http://www.covestor.com/mbr/wanna_b_rich P90X

    short XTNT 1.68 1000 shares…

  • http://www.kabam.com tbohen

    Man XTNT looking niiiiiice!! Please go sideways for a while so I’m not tempted to short mid morning!!

  • kash

    I dont have any day trade its a good idia to buy RSOL/HOKU hold till next day

    kash

  • Getshorty

    PMTI fight at 52 week high support, dig hold key 16 price, surviced the stop order fest under 16, looks like a go.

    Broke $16 52 week high on Friday, and hold it this morning after a panic attack.

    Looks solid if it can end the day over $16

  • akpirani

    VITA, had some fake good news….spiked now down big….conference at 11 maybe another spike?

  • tomofnj

    I’m in for 10 a month as a trial

  • traderjoe7

    Enrolled….How does this work ?

  • be the ball

    Stockpreacher with an email saying to go ahead and forget about NGHI. In their words, “Trading like Crap”.

    Anyone make anything shorting it, it’s down 20% from the high, though that is only .10

  • Getshorty

    Looks like GROW is getting terminal today….., about to break under 10 .

    This may well be the huge drop

  • http://www.goodevalue.com Reaper

    NGHI thought about the short, IB had 3k shares (still does), but didn’t do it.

  • be the ball

    TimAlerts down again for 10 minutes or so. You all already know my opinion on that. Tim’s making 30k a month on Timalert fees alone, can certainly afford to upgrade.

  • Getshorty

    Anybody considering GROW if it stays under $10?

  • dannb

    I agree… Check out XRM, nice multi month base @.60. Up from a buck to @.20 on fri. pennystockchaser pump. Down to about 1.60. Looking for it to break the morning low of 1.51.

  • dannb

    damn it… 2.20 on fri

  • Toletem

    XRM looking nice for short it

  • tomofnj

    Traderjoe, if you find out let ME know :P

  • Getshorty

    PMTI bounced up after testing its 52w high, looks pretty solid, GROW looks like a good risk reward short if it can close under $10 today.

    By the way, anybody knows how to store beer from a Keg, had a party last saturday and today they are going to take it away, still beer in it, drinking as much as I can but won’t be able to make it. Store some in 3 liter plastoc bottles (the ones for soft drinks) but I am pretty sure it is going to get spoiled.

    I need help on this one

  • http://www.kabam.com tbohen

    GS, I’ve got a kegerator, thats the way to go.

    In my experience, and trust me I got ALOT there is no good way to preserve a keg other then CO2.

    Call yer buddies up and start chugging or you’ll be getting dirty looks from the party store guy when you return a 1/3 full keg :)

  • Getshorty

    THanks TBO, thats what I was thinking, I am calling lots of friends now. If by any chance any of you are in Lima, Peru, show up !!!

  • http://www.goodevalue.com Reaper

    NGHI now down 40% from its high of $0.55. Shoulda shorted.

  • Getshorty

    I am out of trades, otherwise would have shorted that failed pump

  • Toletem

    GMGMQ?

  • avoigt_2000

    he GS,i already left lima a few month ago but my friend scott lives there and he like to pump beer….
    his e-mail is jsmstock2004@yahoo.com

  • http://www.test.timothysykes.com timothysykes

    slow day, thank god, dont force trades, just watch ARNA and ANPI tomorrow

  • kondal.reddy

    Tim ….how about shorting ZAGG togay and hold it over night….

  • Sillyguy

    SYMX might be about to break, a lot of sellers queued at 1.5

  • avoigt_2000

    check out IMMO for s/s

  • Jeff Moates

    In RSOL at 3.95, in ANPI at 2.49, small speculative positions for gap ups tomorrow

  • http://www.test.timothysykes.com timothysykes

    HEB could really squeeze short late today past 3.10ish, potential buy, but def not ovenright, too risky, i’m just watching

  • avoigt_2000

    HEB
    might run

  • Spit

    New Iphone just been announced Iphone 3Gs, upto 4 times faster processor :)

  • marcus87

    looks like your right Tim HEB. I think its continuing higher guys

  • http://twitter.com/rickyt1986 rickyt1986

    just got in HEB holding buy overnight small position

  • http://twitter.com/rickyt1986 rickyt1986

    in at 3.09 placed a stop loss at 2.95 in case theres bad news ill take a small loss or good news big gains

  • robert96

    If there is bad news, it will open at $1.50. Your stop loss will do no good.

  • http://twitter.com/rickyt1986 rickyt1986

    i live in Ca and wake up at 3am to watch premarket trades im pretty sure i can catch it to minimize losses

  • http://twitter.com/rickyt1986 rickyt1986

    well i have balls n am willing to hold overnight its risky but some great profits come from risky trades thats y i have a small position

  • http://twitter.com/rickyt1986 rickyt1986

    tim you should place a chatroom box on your site here that would be cool …

  • http://twitter.com/rickyt1986 rickyt1986

    the dean is tryin to promote cthp still low priced im trying to ride it up then short it on top holding for a pop up this week CTHP is biotrade with nanojacket technology for drugs ..

  • Whistler2010

    ricky .. its already there
    click the chat icon

  • http://twitter.com/rickyt1986 rickyt1986

    thats cool never noticed it.. i only use tim cause hes good at shorting and i want to learn how to profit on the way up and down