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Market Manipulation Vs. Real Stocks, Guess Which Offers More Predictable Profits!

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Gotta start the fun off by featuring the chart of the manipulation scheme du jour, CVSC (no need to detail the company; whoever’s promoting it doesn’t care, so neither should you!)

cvsc

Notice how each day now the daily gain is getting larger right alongside the trading volume—methinks a blow out is coming sooner rather than later, in a similar fashion to the blatant manipulation schemes of Christmas’ Past

But, then again, it doesn’t have that far to fall…yet, so hopefully this promoter is as cunning as Roger Clemens–meaning he has the will to cheat for the long run–and concoct a chart like this:

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Back in real stock land (boooooooooo!), I def. wanted to short LULU’s $4+ gain at the market open—‘twas only up so much cuz some ANALyst said blah blah blah, squeezing the shorts—hardly any chance at holding a 20% move without dropping a little considering the collapse over the past few days leads many longs to sell into any bounce. Unfortunately, no shares available to short, strange for such a large company, $2 drop before 10am made me cringe, but it coulda woulda shoulda just been a quick scalp as the stock finished stroooooooong.

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Another stock in a nasty multi-day downtrend, COIN, caught shorts off guard at the open, spiking $1+. Not surprisingly, no shares available to short. $1 drop before 10am—same pattern due to dip buyers taking profits, bitter investors in at higher price cutting their losses—all very much predictable, but also not a big move, as the stock came back. Actually looked like a potential buy late in the day as it broke the morning highs, but it failed to breakout more than 5 cents, aka a double top, as there was a wall of sellers at every turn (why I prefer buying only into pure breakouts to new highs)

And in retrospect, I coulda woulda shoulda bought any of these falling knives I posted HERE last night, but even in today’s ideal up market I’d mostly be up 20-40 cents/share on each of them—which due to my pathetic timing skills wouldn’t leave me much room for high probability profits. Good avoidance. I won’t even post their charts cuz I don’t wanna set a bad example for you kids out there.

TIM Lesson: There are both small predictable moves and large ones, focus on large moves—less headache, better risk-reward, bigger gains, more spare time, aka don’t become a scalper like Uncle Timmay! (considering that while I’ve gotten better at focusing on the big gains, I still take infantile gains—gotta get better if TIM has any shot at the big-time)

Posted in ANALysts, Manipulation, Patterns To Buy, TIM Lessons

  • Tony Ellis

    What’s going on with ATAI? How does a Chinese IPO with no promotion and volume go up in this market?

  • timsykes

    atai simply has no sellers and reported good earnings. not a tough combo.

  • mario

    HI Tim,

    New to your blog. Love it. What are your thoughts on shorting SWC.

    Thanks

  • timsykes

    thanks, do a search on this blog for SWC or look in the forums, basically it was a good short off the top but its risky now

  • puma

    so are you buying cvsc for short-term, given thats theres minimal downside and possibly unlimted upside?

    given that the market may be bullish for a few days think it can get dragged up, then dropped down? (then it’ll be a good short? if available)

  • timsykes

    i might buy some CVSC intraday for 20-30 cents but i’m too scred of a morning collapse/SEC halt to hold overnight. trade scared and u cant get burned

  • Brian D

    Reminds me of a certain RGEN play during December. Strong volume, and the ability to not hold its highs followed by a nice tank a bit of retesting and a further tank.

  • Joseph

    Tim-

    BVRG too scamola

    They will be doing a Foward Split soon, this is same guys as RCTY, ALMY and all other sh*t shows when they are done

  • Joseph

    Speaking of a hault

    http://sec.gov/litigation/suspensions/2008/34-57476.pdf

    Haulted this AM!

  • Joseph

    Halted I mean

  • Gary

    timmmay!!!

    where is your shorts into CVSC.!!!

    of course none for ETrade!

  • lmsmith

    WOW… that speculative TMA sure have me sitting lovely over here- No guts, No glory!

  • Joseph

    Gary of course not, Etrade doesn’t allow you to short Pink or OTCBBs

  • timsykes

    Damn CVSC down 30%, scary predictable, couldn’t find any to short though :(

  • http://jcutz5000@aol.com The Barber

    cvsc is a buy for a quick pop

  • http://jcutz5000@aol.com The Barber

    If it breaks back past 2.00 for sure

  • http://jcutz5000@aol.com The Barber

    Coin is just gonna keep its down trend into the single digits… no buyers left very low volume

  • http://jcutz5000@aol.com The Barber

    Coin/ dead cat bounce yesterday…short covering no natural buyers

  • http://jcutz5000@aol.com The Barber

    Everyone in my office is short..I recommend my friends on this blog as well..

  • timsykes

    experience teaches me yes, COIN will drift down to the single digits, but its not definite and even if it does, there will be many spikes along the way. also u forget it took a damn long time to break the 9-11 range, lots of support around 10, so there’s some downside, there’s some upside, i’ll wait to see a gradual daily decline like i like

  • Mazda3jdm

    CVSC took a big fall just like you perdicted Tim

  • Adam

    Take a look at HYBR, I received a text on 2/12/08 (pump) and it was trading around $4. That day was a perfect short entry unfortunately etrade doesn’t have any available to borrow. It went down almost immediately! It looks like it is being pumped again and if anyone can find shares, let me know where!

  • Stan

    tim – dont u think it will be tough to get to single digits considering actions by the fed, the big boost yesterday.. which may have its effects for a few days followed by a possible rate cut next tuesday/wed??

  • Stan

    what im saying it might take a long time like 3 weeks for coin to be going down to single digits because of where the market is heading what do u think?

  • Lisa

    Coin’s movement has no correlation with market’s movement.
    it may get pumped again, or it may continue it’s downtrend

  • Stan

    explain how then COIN went up $1 a share yesterday and CONW $1.5% nearly 10% when the dow had a record day.

    Probably that now pumping and manipulation has ended which accounts for all its gains when the market was going down. yes its going to continue its downtrend but also is now slightly influenced by the rest of the market as well as yesterday shows.

  • bryan

    bostob beer..SAM…….supernovaesk? has sideways action…what do u think? too expensive and great earnings mean its too risky?

  • bryan

    boston beer? SAM supernova? good sideways action? short biased? i know its not american to short beer let alone american real beer.

  • timsykes

    sam can never be a supernova, its a real company! no matter the pattern, institutions are involved, avoid

  • http://www.test.timothysykes.com/2008/03/16/7-low-price-microcraps-creeping-their-way-higher/ 7 Low Priced Microcraps Creeping Their Way Higher | Timothy Sykes – Stock Trader, Author, Entrepreneur

    [...] 1-2 day dump, just as it did last time it ran up so steeply, kinda like CVSC, which I featured HERE the day before its biiiiig drop and is now trying to rebound from some BSC-like [...]

  • gero

    can i get ur thoughts on HRAL?

  • http://www.test.timothysykes.com/2008/04/17/in-the-stock-market-trust-no-one-and-no-company-cuz-they%e2%80%99re-all-sh/ In The Stock Market, Trust No One And No Company Cuz They

    [...] badly on one of these microcraps in which I naively believed or because of the media idiots who pretend to be researchers not even because of all the manipulation. No, it

  • http://www.test.timothysykes.com/2008/04/22/manipulated-stock-chart-of-the-day-kentucky-usa-energy-kyus/ Manipulated Stock Chart Of The Day: Kentucky USA Energy (KYUS) | Timothy Sykes – Stock Trader, Author, Entrepreneur

    [...] stocks that ruin the serenity by moving every which way. This work of art is no different from manipulated stocks of the past and it makes you yearn for the day when all stocks will be similarly manipulated! Sadly, ’tis [...]

  • bill

    out for 260 profit.

  • nifri

    Covered 1k @ 8.7. Had sold yesterday @8.7. $12 net loss.

  • AdamN

    Bought some DVAX at $1.70, probably chased it a bit, but its a low float drug stock w/ some phase 3 news. Don’t expect this to double, just looking for a small gain from the morning buying.

  • http://www.goodevalue.com Reaper

    total 2009 TimProfit now $22,173.22 after GROW and SYMX

  • http://www.test.timothysykes.com timothysykes

    nice reaper, how much u make on these 2 plays?

  • AdamN

    Wow, awesome Reaper.

  • http://www.goodevalue.com Reaper

    Tim I said it on last post:

    “Reaper – June 3rd, 2009 at 9:34 am
    out GROW when it went green. +$740

    Reaper – June 3rd, 2009 at 9:36 am
    out SYMX +$396″

  • bvance614

    Good, get the weak hands out of GROW. Markets heading down to much to cover now.

  • AdamN

    Out DVAX $1.85 for a $420 profit.

  • http://www.kabam.com tbohen

    Ohhh GPRE, anytime you need a paper short just ask me!! I’m the fucking man……..

  • BULL

    Would you reshort GROW later?

  • Spit

    OMFG just taken $700 from AGEN in 1.86 out 2.33. THANKS TIM MY BIGGEST GAIN TO DATE. My account stands at $4022, YESSSS your the man!!

    But why did I sell, its at 2.90 now, oh well ;)

  • AdamN

    Nice one Spit, how much did you start with originally?

  • Spit

    $3000

  • Spit

    AGEN is mental today. I am pleased with my exit because it stalled.

  • http://www.goodevalue.com Reaper

    BTB – you cover USCN yet? Looks like I should’ve held

  • HopeSolo

    Why no morning watch list today?

  • be the ball

    no, still in USCN reaper, when did you cover?

  • http://www.goodevalue.com Reaper

    yesterday at .52 … I hate holding small positions long-term.

  • be the ball

    i hear you, just seeing if this follows the UOMO dribble pattern. I actually has an order at .41 that was skipped as the low fill was .40. fuckers :-)

  • AdamN

    Daaamn, DVAX still going, nice break past even $2. Anyone else play this?

  • wallie123

    Adam thanks for the heads up on DVAX I bought the 2.00 breakout at 2.03 and then it went up to 2.15ish area and seemed like it could not go anymore so i sold at 2.10. I made 137 dollars off it. I was hoping for it to go higher, but it failed so i took my small profit. As i write this DVAX has fallen back to 2.00.

  • BuckeyeTrader82

    who suggested AGEN and when?

  • Spit

    Tim mentioned it in the watchlist. Positive drug news and short later maybe. Which means to watch as a buy for me :)

  • AdamN

    Tim had AGEN in this mornings watchlist, but didn’t have any specific buy or sell recommendations. Just said he was watching.

  • KnightTrader

    Got DVAX at 1.77, but missed the run as i was pulled into an emergency meeting. Goim to hold for a little bit to see if it can break out past 2.00, if it fails i figure i will sell around 1.90 for $185 profit

  • jdkriek

    200ish profit on AGEN – *yawn* I

  • Spit

    In CHLN with 800 shares at 3.33.

  • Tony

    AdamN, I’m still holding
    DVAX @ 1.8799

  • dino

    short ANPI 200 at 2.00

  • Sunny

    out of symx ~ 100$

  • bassman52

    Lost my balls on CBOU 1000 sold at 6.85 lost $430 stupid trade didnt cut my losses quick enough

  • aggie2006

    CTIC is trading tight

  • http://collegecharters.com T-Money

    Feed down down! Wonder if Seed can hold up, especially when the market overall is down..

  • SoBeGemini

    What is ur take on $CHLN at this moment?

  • Jeff Moates

    KGN spiked

  • Jeff Moates

    Spit, are you still in CHLN? I’m considering shorting on this short squeeze

  • http://www.goodevalue.com Reaper

    SYMX just broke the lod in a great afternoon fade. I shorted 10k at 1.145

  • http://www.goodevalue.com Reaper

    Oh yeah! Let’s hear it for Reaper alerts! I was debating doing another 10k shares, but I was too slow.

  • http://www.kabam.com tbohen

    beat you by half a penny reaper :)

    I’m started to get worried, am I starting to think like you?!?!?!?!

    1.15 BEST(USD) 13:48:54 GMT-0400 on Wed, 03 Jun 2009

  • Jeff Moates

    nice pick Reaper, I’m in it too.

  • http://www.goodevalue.com Reaper

    tbohen – same price. I include my commish in my positions. So I sold 10k into the huge block at 1.15, and the half penny per share commission makes my cost basis 1.145

    + SLD 10,000 SYMX false Stock (NMS) 1.150 USD SMART 12:48:08 50.00

  • http://www.kabam.com tbohen

    Damn you!! :)

  • http://www.goodevalue.com Reaper

    I was 46 seconds faster, too :)

  • http://www.kabam.com tbohen

    Man, I’m all about public accountability I swear everytime i post about a fucking trade it goes against me, I’m out SYMX +$50 stinking bucks…

  • http://www.kabam.com tbohen

    Jeez Reaper, i think I may have met someone more competitive then myself! I bet my dicks bigger!!!

  • aggie2006

    ctic lod

  • Spit

    Hi Jeff, yes I am still in CHLN. The squeeze scared me but its now sideways with low volume. You in?

  • http://www.goodevalue.com Reaper

    lol tbohen. I wasn’t serious (I don’t think you are either). I like SYMX for an o/n trade and as long as it holds under 1.15 I’ll be happy.

  • http://www.test.timothysykes.com timothysykes

    shoted 9000 SYMX at 1.11

  • http://www.kabam.com tbohen

    Shit you should know that I know your just fucking around :)

  • davidro69

    nice

  • asparmar

    My only play today – covered GROW for $ 70 profit earlier today. Thanks Tim!