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In A Pathetic Attempt To Get More Clicks, Yahoo! Now Hides Date/Time Stamps On News, Complain!

March 26, 2008 at 11:14 am
by timothysykes

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UPDATE: Yahoo! went back to showing the timestamps, they don’t suck anymore…I think out complaining helped, good work guys!

Looks like Yahoo! Finance has decided to try to get more clicks by hiding the date/time stamps of the news on each stock’s main page! How can you show a list of headlines/news/PRs without their corresponding dates and times? I mean this just sounds crazy, right? Now, if you’re not a trader, you probly don’t care, but for those of us who spend hours upon hours digging through research and seeing how news / PRs affect stock prices, this is HUGE. We don’t want to waste time clicking on meaningless news just to see what day/time it came out!

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For example, take a classic microcrapper momo play like SEED who on Monday morning updated investors about their new seeds. With Yahoo!’s new rules in place, you must click the stupid PR to see that it came out pre-market at 8:30am. It was good news so the stock rose a few cents, but it wasn’t anything huge. But on Tuesday, it was a whole new story—agriculture stocks were jamming and SEED rose nearly $2. If you go to SEED’s main Yahoo! Finance page, do you see the date/time for this PR? Or for any other news?

Some flunky from thestreet.com attributed the rise to that Monday morning news, which those of us who know what time the original PR came out to be ridiculous considering it came out pre-market, not after-hours, so there was a whole day for suckers / pumpers to try to get some momentum behind the stock, which they failed to do. Luckily, the hot agri sector bailed them out on Tuesday.

Which brings me to my point—unless you do some clicking and digging, you’re not gonna understand the factors behind what moves these stocks. TheStreet.com is staffed by too many journalists who’ve never made a dollar in the markets, so I can forgive them, somewhat. But by taking away the date/time stamps on news in a PATHETIC attempt to get more clicks/page views, Yahoo! is wasting my time, making it more difficult to research and hurting everyone’s ability to learn this great game.

That is not cool. That is sad. I urge you to email Yahoo! and complain–tell them how we don’t give a f%^# about their page views/ failing business, their focus should be on displaying information, all information!

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  • Shawn_oti

    I’ve actually been getting used to Google Finance. It’s not quite up to Yahoo in terms of information, but quick page loads and newsbites are easy to find (and they are timestamped)

    http://finance.google.com

  • Shawn_oti

    I’ve let Yahoo know of my intention to switch to Google as well …

  • Ali

    Yes me too. Google is my main source for news but I have Yahoo open on the side. I like how directly on the charts, Google posts letters corresponding to headlines for that day.Yahoo is going to lose a lot of customers because of this

  • http://www.andrewyoungia.blogspot.com .Andy.

    What the F-Bomb. I like msn anyways for finance. I was a yahoo man since I started using the internet, but more and more I am liking google.

    BAD Move Yahoo

  • http://www.andrewyoungia.blogspot.com .Andy.

    What the F-Bomb. I like msn anyways for finance. I was a yahoo man since I started using the internet, but more and more I am liking google.

    BAD Move Yahoo

    Here my pathetic attempt for more clicks

    http://www.nevadarocketclub.com
    http://andrewyoungia.blogspot.com

  • sam

    yes yahoo sucks for this but if you click headlines on the left under news and info the dates remain. so you dont have to click each one to check date/time.

  • AP

    Wow.. I thought you were joking. Whats next, remove the volume information and put in on the “Key Statistics” page. This sucks..

  • AP

    Wow.. I thought you were joking. Whats next, remove the volume information and put it on the “Key Statistics” page. This sucks..

  • AP

    I figured out a workaround. Go To http://ca.finance.yahoo.com it is the canadian version of yahoo and you can still pull up all US tickers (only thing missing is link to message boards).

    You’re welcome.

    AP

  • timsykes

    we shouldn’t have to click a sidebar or go to the canadian site just to see the dat/time of news, this is utterly ridiculous and i’m countin on all of u to complain

  • http://www.10kthrownaway.com ainkurn

    Google Finance is a hellavu lot better than Yahoo. MSN is better than Yahoo IMO. Screw Yahoo!

  • HeadLiner

    Just click on the Yahoo! Headlines link on the left margin. The timestamps are still there.

  • be-the-ball

    complaint emailed, i wasn’t polite

  • whats your name fool!!!

    yo son i’m the stock trader word. Check out Http://financehustler.blopspot.com do your self a favor and check out the latest and greatests!

  • mitils

    for some crazy stupid reason i am addicted to yahoo …i know it is not the best…but it was the first one i ever used….and shifting is hard!!!!
    anyways.. you can subscribe to rss feeds of your potential plays,,you would see the exact time stamp…and make your research easier..
    i would move to google if they had bar charts..

  • Brian D

    Had to respond to your comment on my SNTS short I held 900 over night at $3.14 and got out at $2.93. Nice and quick $190ish profit.

  • Jay

    Hi Tim…Any thoughts on Joez??? Jay

  • http://www.personalfinanceblog.us personal finance blog

    come on MS, Buy Yahoo…Yahoo getting worst…nice job on VION TIM!!

  • dome

    tim

    where the credit crunch will end any idea ?

  • http://www.newsflashr.com Gal, founder of newsflashr.com

    Tim –

    The thing about sites like Yahoo and Google News is that you don’t know WHY certain headlines make it to the top of their news pages … which could lead to biases / corruption … that’s the #1 problem we’ve solved with our new, fully automated system, news headlines make it to the top of the news page based on the sheer volume of keywords found in headlines (gathered from all the most credible news sources).

    http://www.newsflashr.com … news headlines WITH the timestamp :)

    In effect this is the “collective intelligence” of all the news editors … our friend, Andrew Horowitz, likes to call this the “collective stupidity”, but as mentioned, these are the most credible news sources that we’re linking to!

    Anyways, didn’t you once tell me you’re not into news?
    -Gal

  • timsykes

    Newsflashr does rock, and i’m not into news, breaking news that is…but i will look back on a stock’s chart to see how people reacted to that news.

  • timsykes

    woo hooo i can post freely now, thank god for software support people!

  • http://TheTechnicalTrader.net Cameron Fous

    We should find out whoever came up with this stupid idea and cut there fingers off!! This is so annoying……

  • http://angrytrader123.blogspot.com/ angrytrade
  • http://TheTechnicalTrader.net Cameron Fous

    Hey angry how about you suck on this ))=======D ~~~ thanks :)

    p.s. Time stamps are back up at yahoo :)

  • timsykes

    time stamps are back up…doubtful, but i’d like to think we had something to do with it!

  • http://www.reapertrades.com Reaper

    lucky that I reloaded the last page … still haven’t gotten email.

  • be the ball

    no email, no text, thats unfortunate….

    waitfor it…tim will call me a prick for not refreshing this page every 2 seconds to get the alert…..

  • http://www.reapertrades.com Reaper

    I’ll do it for him, BTB. You’re a prick. Plus you’re a prick because your comments got deleted from my blog. And because you wear a hat in your picture. ;)

  • be the ball

    lmao, at least call me a big prick….that way i can impress the ladies…..

  • http://www.test.timothysykes.com timothysykes

    i got the email and text right away…again, no service is perfect, u see it on the site, thats good enough…anybody serious about pennystocking doesnt need my alert to see this is a great short if and when it cracks 2.70 in any convincing fashion

  • be the ball

    course, that’s why i had a sell limit at 2.68

  • BULL

    How was the Great Wall experience Tim?

  • AdamN

    short CHINA at $2.69

  • be the ball

    hey, fwiw, i had sex with my future wife on the great wall of china

    i know you all were dying to know that fact

  • http://www.test.timothysykes.com timothysykes

    great wall was awesome…we spent a night there and walked 8km…truly one of the best things i’ve ever done…best of all China is soooo cheap, an entire month here is gonna cost less than $5k including flight, hotel, food, sightseeing

  • bill

    Finally it broke down convincingly!

    4000 @ 2.7

  • scrillawill

    shorted china 2.6801
    4000 shares

  • tbohen

    I waited for $2.65 that was my point from this morning. So I’m in now.

  • be the ball

    they have hotels at the great wall? didn’t know that, we were out in the boonies on a random part of the wall near some villages

  • BULL

    It would be nice if you add a picture ;-)

  • darkseraph

    none at TOS? =(

  • bill

    If I don’t have to work today, I’ll short every single bounce of CHINA today.

  • http://www.test.timothysykes.com timothysykes

    we will ad pictures, friggin facebook and twitter are blocked…even my proxy means uploading pics on there takes forever

  • http://www.test.timothysykes.com timothysykes

    did any of u guys profit on SPDE?

  • http://www.test.timothysykes.com timothysykes

    darkseraph, TOS has never really had CHINA…interactive brokers has like 500,000 shares

  • BULL

    By you I mean Tim not BTB, of course!!! No sex pics here ;-)

  • kash

    made $ 77.41 after comm on SPDE

  • tbohen

    Were you a looper for the Lama while you were over there BTB?

  • http://www.test.timothysykes.com timothysykes

    u guys get emails/text messages yet? i’m gonna rip out the throats of the people behind these services grrrrr

  • tbohen

    No txt for me, but you’ve explained that many times.

    Email was right on time, 40 seconds after the website timestamp.

  • jimbod124

    Short 1220 CHINA at $2.64 through TDAmeritrade

  • bill

    Got your email @ 9:37. I shorted it 5 mins later and still got decent price.

  • be the ball

    email took 10 minutes here, no text yet

    gotta cover, going to the beach….bummer…made $100

  • http://www.reapertrades.com Reaper

    lol BTB. Try to keep your hands off your wife at the beach. We don’t want you getting arrested for public indecency.

    My email same time as BTB’s.

  • wallie123

    I got the email at 12:37 p.m. no text, also didn’t get the email for the morning watchlist.

  • Chris

    Gmail says the email for me was sent 12:37, but didn’t show up til 12:47. I saw the post, 1000 in at 2.67.

  • Chris

    Really wishing I held on for more on ANVR, but I wasn’t sure what the possible drop was.

  • BULL

    No e-mail yet

  • http://www.jawaexpress.com enslavedbynumber

    Damnnn… Learned big lesson this week. I switched from Sykes-style trading rule that has earned me 10K+ in a month into Long-style trading. BOT Citigroup @4 hoping it will break out now got burned so bad. BOT RINO @16 before earning hoping for great earning, now got burned. BOT RIMM @79 hoping it will go back to 52wk High like AAPL, now got killed. Total Down 15Kish… Now still holding all three. do you think I should bail and start over or wait till it goes back up?

  • http://www.test.timothysykes.com timothysykes

    nice spot on rINO breakdown guys…i didnt think it had enough negative firepower to drop this much in 1 day…beware of squeeze but if not, tomorrow should be another nasty day for it

  • http://www.jawaexpress.com enslavedbynumber

    TIM, should I bail on RINO?

  • Chris

    enslaved, maybe bailing and switching sides would be a good idea, since tim says it could be another bad day if shorts dont squeeze

  • http://www.jawaexpress.com enslavedbynumber

    OMGG…. all my profit is now goneeeeeeeeeeeeee…

  • jimmyiq

    enslavedbynumber, are you still holding all of those? C, RIMM and RINO? If interest rates are held the same, hopefully everything goes up.

  • jchahboune

    how much does it suck that GGC is one of those unshortable SEC stocks!

  • craigels

    in china at 2.63 a bit low. is anyone not getting the emails at all. i havnt recieved any tooday. a note to enslavedbynumber!!! i did the same thing bought c at 4.12 lost my ass. everytime i do that i say dammmm i should have stuck with tim. so dont worry i think its the gambler in all of us. dicipline is key…. i lost 5 grand to make you feel better. timm all the way no shortcuts stay focused.

  • bill

    Everybody needs to have some big loss to learn some lesson, enslavedb. Recently I was stupid to gamble for earning plays. First time, I made $200 and second time (this time), I have $1000 loss currently. I should have cut my loss yesterday when it was only $600 loss. (Well, I still sit on since it’s my 401K account so I can’t take it out until 30+ years later. Also the stock starts to rally. I’ll probably cut loss once the rally is finished).

    So no matter what style you play, always remember Tim’s #1 rule: cut your loss quickly!

  • Jon_Reed

    Well Tim,

    For my first TimAlert Short: I shorted 500 CHINA at 2.77 a few days ago. Well I held until today when I had to go to an business appointment. So I set a trailing stop of 1% incase CHINA erupted. Anyways, the stock dropped to $2.62 and my sell limit was $2.64 which was eventually filled while I was AFK.

    So after commissions, I earned a simple $55 dollars. But the learning and experience I received is priceless! I have a better understanding of what you are looking for.

    Also, I see you just shorted CHINA again (which probably pushed the stock lower then $2.70), but I think with it now leveling off in the low $2.60′s that many buyers out there are anticipating this E/R that is going to be released next week. Who knows though…

    Jon

  • jchahboune

    YRCW taking out LOD.

  • davy917

    What does LOD mean?

  • Chris

    LOD = low of the day

  • http://www.reapertrades.com Reaper

    out +$61.71

  • Jon_Reed

    Reaper,

    What’s your take on AVNR? Positive drug news eventually wears out huh? ;)

  • Jon_Reed

    Second Short: 500 AVNR @ $2.97

    This stock gapped up big today on positive drug news from @ 2.10. Since the opening, it has done nothing but dropped.

    I think the good news is wearing off and I look to cover in the mid $2′s.

  • tbohen

    Like usual yours is probably the right call Reaper, I do like the fact that the best “rally” it can mount is 2-3 cents, but damn I hate boring breakdowns….

  • tbohen

    Jon_Reed, good looking pick!

  • TerranFirebat

    CHINA looks like the same story as last time.. I’m not going in this time. If it rises up again in AH that is bad news.

  • nifri

    Short 2k CHINA @ 2.64.

  • Jon_Reed

    Thanks TBohen but I’m a little later then I would have liked. However, I didn’t want to hold two positions with different stock at the same time. I’m still a newb… :(

    Nifri, I hope you have good results but you might be a little late.

  • ChatSucks

    I am out too for $30 profit… didnt like the way it dropped six cents all afternoon…

  • Jon_Reed

    AVNR: $2.80 AH….

  • bill

    Tim, you should consider paying CHINA, the company a visit since you’re in China.

    You can tell them you’re a serious “investor” who bought CHINA a couple of times (every time you cover, you buy). You could take some photos and show us how sketchy they’re on your blog.

  • TheChatter

    Shorted CHINA at 2.76, still holding until tomorrow. Up 100 dollars. Shorted a small amount on OHB, wish I’d put more on but hey ho, still holding this, shorted at 4.126.

    Got stung with SCLN, set a sell stop order at 4.20 which didn’t trigger and I was away so had to get a close friend to sell it manually at 3.8. Lost over 240 dollars, anyone had a similar problem with Stops not being filled? Really pissed me off as it now means I don’t trust to use them in future trading.

  • nifri

    Jon_Reed, thanks but I’m fine with my entry. CHINA was weak all day and now closed below support. I’m aiming for a cover around the low 2s and will get out quickly if it doesn’t act properly. My initial stop is around the 2.75 area so I’m risking about 10c and aiming for 20c-30c. That’s fair enough for me.

  • TheChatter

    Is CHINA down after hours? I can only see on Yahoo Finance which is delayed, I use Sogotrade which doesn’t have too many features

  • bill

    small position in JAZZ. Decent earnings + squeeze short should see a gap up tomorrow morning.

  • moose36

    SYNM looks to be a good potential short. Resistance at $3. Any Thoughts?

  • be the ball

    looks like i didn’t leave anything on the table with CHINA having to sell shortly after the alert. at least for today. will revisit in the am…..

  • TerranFirebat

    Don’t want to sound bitter, GL to all shorting CHINA… I will hop on tommorow if it shows weakness.

  • hirohyoto

    Tim… maybe you should visit:

    LandStar, Inc.
    Suite 1306, Building

  • TheChatter

    What’s peoples opinions of MERX? Potential short?

  • TheChatter

    CGCA is going to be promoted in the morning by Wall Street Grand

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