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TIM $15,688, Down $140, You Can Do So Much Better Than Me!

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh what a stupid, stupid, stupid loss, I feel like this guy:

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The beautiful thing about PennyStocking is that you don’t have to scan through thousands of stocks every day, looking for the latest and greatest. No, it’s best to trade stocks that have been in play for the past few days so plenty of fickle day traders are involved. That way they’ll be volatile and liquid, two qualities most needed to give you the best odds of profiting 5-20% on a trade, long or short. Read some past blog posts and you can see me transitioning from one stock to another, whatever fits the patterns I’m comfortable playing.

COIN couldn’t breakout so it’s back to the 12-13ish range, aka not volatile enough for me (for higher priced stocks, I want 20-50% intraday moves or else with my poor timing skills, the odds of success aren’t very great) so the two plays on my radar today were SHZ and DARA, both looking like they could spike and inevitably fall (I wish I could buy, too, but I just suck at it) I woke up early to borrow shares to short, but Thinkorswim had no DARA, just plenty of SHZ to go around, so I reserved 600 shares.

The stock opened lower and I had a chance to short at the open at $7.67, just 1 cent below where I covered yesterday—a penny I’d gladly paid to avoid any overnight holding risk—but now, my screwed up COIN trade fresh in my mind, I couldn’t risk shorting too early, I had to watch out for that morning spikeness risk! So, I waited.

Within 10 minutes of the open, I coulda woulda shoulda covered at $7.31 those shares I coulda woulda shoulda shorted at $7.67, but we’re talking only $100ish in profits, ideally, before the morning spikeness came in, on very low volume, pushing the stock up big. Not an ideal trade, good avoidance. From 9:45am to 10:15am, the stock surged from $7.30 to $8.75. Ahhhh, volatility. Even though I knew I shouldn’t be shorting in the morning and more importantly, I had an 11am meeting, I thought this was just a brief spike so I shorted 400 shares–not the full 600 I’d borrowed–at $8.40, only 3 cents off where I successfully shorted yesterday, and right at yesterday’s busted support (broken support becomes resistance) Sweet, a gift, yes, please!

Twenty minutes into my trade, and 15 minutes before I had to leave, it wasn’t such a gift with the stock gyrating between $8.50 and $8.80. Damn my impatience! But there were sellers, plenty of big block sellers, so I wasn’t worried. As I got ready to leave, I figured I’d put in an order to give me a nice profit in case the stock dropped enough. Since I knew there’d be buyers trying to prevent a negative close around $7.70, I put in my buy to cover order at $7.75. It executed immediately?!?!?!?!?!

This idiot made a fat finger mistake, entering a limit order of $8.75!!!! My limit was above the current asking price so I bought 100 shares at $8.69 and 300 at $8.73, for a ridiculous $140 loss! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!! What a freaken moron! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!

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I took my anger out on my front door and went to my meeting. The stock rubbed my mistake in by downtrending for the rest of the day. It’s not the dollar loss that gets me—even if I had held, my gain woulda been minimal, like $100—it’s the poor execution that pisses me off, especially after yesterday’s perfect trade. This was not my first fat finger mistake nor will it be my last. Good news is this time thanks to the TIM project; it cost me about 5% of what it did last time!

TIM Lesson: Always double check your limit orders before placing them

check_yes_yes2.gifWhat I Did Right:

– Not wanting to risk a overnight/morning spike, I didn’t hold overnight into today

– Shorted into the morning spike at yesterday’s support (now resistance)

– Small position size

– Posted my trade on this site and on TheLion, so others who are less stupid than me, profited

cross_no_no.gifWhat I Did Wrong:

– Didn’t wait until the afternoon to short!

– Traded even though I knew I had an intraday meeting

– Not an ideal pattern to short into given the low volume and its already sizable drop off its highs

– Fat Finger Mistake, Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!

PS: DARA enjoyed some sweeet morning spikeness of its own before downtrending gradually, 25% off its morning high, 2 ideal times to short, 1.) at the first signs of weakness on the morning super spikeness 2.) when it cracked the sideways price action at $5.05, fifteen minutes before the market close.

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Tomorrow it can still spike on the open, maybe a bit more, but it’s tough to sustain momo on the 3rd day, as SHZ and IDMI have proven lately. Whatever the outcome, add its chart to the pile of other microcrap momos, I’m not making this PennyStocking junk up, it really works and I’m really not that great at it! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!

Posted in 101bad, Bad Trades, Fess Up Time, Impatience, Patterns To Short, Short Selling, Supernovas, TIM Lessons

  • Brian D

    I went long and then short on DARA and managed to do 12% today. I’m holding my short overnight which could be really stupid. Luckily all my classes are next door to the computer lab tomorrow so I can leave and end the bullship if it decides to startup again.

  • mitil

    wouldn’t an OCO type orger come handy when you are in such a situation and have to go to a meeting?

  • http://www.personalfinanceblog.us Brian P

    I short SHZ at $8.53 and buy cover at $8.20..not a bad trade..

    hear you about limited order..last year, one mistake cost me about $120k. I did not lose anything but I lost chance to get $120K return that afternoon.

  • George Johnson

    Tim, why are you so impatient and so stupid? Just wondering. Thanks for reply.

    John

  • timsykes

    hindsight is easy. u see opportunities u take them. if i waited for only perfectly ideal trades, i’d be trading 6-18 times/year. thats boring. and u guys wouldnt learn anything

  • chris

    Tim,

    LKQX

    I almost shorted today close to 23, but just couldn’t do it. It closed shy of 22 with a small selloff, still up nearly 20% for the day. Your thoughts? I know this is not a penny stock, or is it?

    Thanks
    Chris

  • timsykes

    i dont short earnings plays, espeically those breakin out to new highs.

  • timsykes

    (I prefer shorting failing or fraudulent companies!)

  • Nick

    Tim–checked out your library (saw you read atlas shrugged and were a philosophy major–cool stuff), but as a hella newbie to stocks, do you have a section that will point me in the right direction to get started

    thanks
    pupil nick

  • timsykes
  • Dan

    AGIX You need to buy it Tim. Haw does the chart look now after the past 3 days. From .57 monday to today .77 not to bad Tim lol. What do you think now Tim.

  • Brian D

    Trading for a Living by Alexander Elder sorry if you all dislike him but that was my first book I ever read pertaining to the subject. Have read, and re-read many times over. Reminiscences all the way.

  • timsykes

    AGIX still sucks! its not volatile enough for e, its not my chart pattern, like i said let me know when it gets p to $2 or $3, then i might play it. theres tons of moves i’ll miss, but i stick to whats worked for me.

  • sonid

    TIm, take a look at the COIN chart from the jan 14th run up….. It’s almost identical to SHZ. I think this will be a good cliff diver once it cracks 7.20ish What do you think ?

  • Dan

    Why are you watching QTWW then. I think that charts sucks and AGIX chart is ready to explode up

  • chris

    Thank Tim for your response. How is one to know what is fraudulent? To be honest, from the outside, COIN looks like it could be good be a good investment (VALUE – Don’t hate me. I like your concepts, but would like a small portion of my funds to go long in a good investment, is that possible in today’s market?). I hear people say they have like 6 employees, etc. In fact, I was going to go long when at 10, but was waiting for it to dip to 9 and didn’t last week. Coulda, woulda…
    Again, thanks for your help.

  • timsykes

    COIN will die eventually but the break abover 11.50 is so bullish its scary. gotta wait for the momo to die out, tomorrow’s SEED’s nasty report should hurt cOIN a bit, we’ll see how it acts

    I watch thousands of stocks, doesnt mean i’m gonna play them. Tomorrow only ideal play for me is DARA, multi-day exponential setups, thats what i like

  • timsykes

    no idea if any of these fraudulent, i dont want to know, if i did, i’d have to post my research and risk getting my kneecaps smashed. forget that. safe to assume the worst in all of them, it’ll help u remain unbiased against their perfectly sugarcoated PRs and exuberant management who always says the future looks bright. gotta hedge your emotions or risk getting sucked in by their kool-aid

  • Stan

    RYL came across my attention… maybe in the middle of some sideways action and ready to go down. 4 days in a row its been up a good amount but the company is a piece of crap.
    what do you think??

  • timsykes

    I’ll s hort RYL if it breaches $20, nowhere else, looks too strong

  • chris

    Thanks Tim.

    I saw DARA too, and was considering. I am thinking of opening an acct with TOS to short such stocks as an alternative to my ET act. I couldn’t short IDMI and it cost me a lot…Does TOS require 25k in the acct if you are a pattern day trader?
    I’ll start putting some water in the kool-aid…

  • timsykes

    i dounno what TOS’s deal is with pattern day trading, they let me trade as long as i don’t abuse margin, so that means like 1-2 trades/day but no more

  • eric

    Tim great post and very informative! I like how you posted what you did wrong and what u did right. Lots of information on your blog to digest! I enjoy the shorting game way more. TOS let’s you skip the pattern day trading rule?!?!?!? Nice! Im starting to think TOS stands for Tim or Swim.

  • Stan

    TYM and SEED look to be good shorts to take over on open? also DARA?
    I think TYM looks the best though since its been trending downward in a little more predictable fashion. Thoughts?

  • Gibran

    DARA
    I saw this big spike Tues. and considered shorting but looking at all the bids and it just told me to go long. I actually was catching this falling knife buying and began to feel nervous (amateur) but after looking at other charts similiar to this one I decided it should give about 2-3 days of gains then start to come back down (I think).

    Luckily I held over Tues night on with 600 shares @ avg. $4.38 and sold today @ $4.90 = P/L: $308.00. I could have sold around $6.50 DAMN, but I’m more than happy with this gain!

    I then considered shorting after it hit a nice high but stayed away after making a nice gain….

  • Funterpwave

    Tim, what’s your stand on margin? Seems you stay away from it. Any reason or am I wrong?

  • timsykes

    Woooohoooo got 1000 shares of DARA reserved short for the day, c’mon morning spikeness!

    I use margin to short, I stay away from leverage, that way for all my mistakes, I never risk disaster

  • Tony Ellis

    I can only get 314…oh well taking what I can get

  • Ivan Mutaftchiev

    Tim,

    what do you think is going to spike up big this morning ? I’m looking to go long….

  • Aegir

    DARA looking good in PM.

  • Alvari40

    Tim,

    Educate me. You use “margin” to “leverage” your buying power.

  • timsykes

    i suck at longs and i don’t see any clear breakouts, no idea whats going up

    just shorted some DARA at $5.35, only a small position, have more shares to short on the way up, but i’m too afraid this thing will collapse without me.

  • Stan

    is MF a good short to hold throught the day? They will open down 10%

  • Stan

    ehh too late now for MF

  • Stan

    dara up to 5.85, no shares available to short @ Scottrade. darn

  • ETQT

    shorted some DARA @ 5.70

  • timsykes

    added some more to my DARA at 5.53

  • timsykes

    total average 5.42,,,, i suck at timing but u gotta love this strategy, now 512 x 5.25, can’t wait til we take out those stops at 5 either late morning or afternoon!

  • Stan

    im so pissed at scottrade. my 1000 @ 5.85 got rejected and i would have covered at 5.07 thats like 800 bucks!

  • timsykes

    GET OUT OF SCOTTRADE!

    DARA bouncin a little here, but not a big deal, sellers just took out a 10k buy block at 5.31 in less than 2 minutes, somehow i doubt buyers would be able to do such a feat at these prices

  • ryan z

    short entry AXTI @ 5.95 held over night exit at 5.74…. it was risky but thanks for teaching me to read graphs and not hesitate to pull the trigger tim!

  • burky

    Paper trading here until I get a TOS account. Wasn’t sure how high the morning spike would go so held off. Caught the bounce at $5.30. C’mon … break $5!!!!

  • Stan

    i know ive been planning to take all my money out and put it in TOS soon

  • timsykes

    excellent price action, right back to 5.05 x 5.20, the 5s are gonna try and hold for a bit, but i just don’t see some short seller or scared seller not coming in and taking them out sometime today. then we’re talking 4.60-4.80 and TIM $16.5k!

  • timsykes

    got faked out by those big block buyers, i’m all out at 5.15. what a horrible exit, have fun guys, this is going under 5

  • lmsmith

    Ohh darn- I missed the boat on this one- Mr. Scottrade sucks..

  • ETQT

    as you type…dip to 4.95

  • lmsmith

    Tim you should have held….it’s at 4.95 now

  • Eric T

    Anyone notice BRKR yet? any longs or shorts?

  • lmsmith

    This stock is clearly going down!! Congrats to those who caught this one early….. I might go long on it at the end of the day- it seems to have the morning gap up?? any thoughts?

  • timsykes

    of course i should have held, but i also have meetings today and my screwed up entry too made me average up, so this was a $7,500 position for me, waaaaay too large, can’t risk it away form a computer. i wouldn’t be surprised to see 4.50 on this today. still TIM $16k. horrible trader, great strategy, same old same old

  • Eric T

    lmsmith – go long on DARA? What hints are there to go long at end the end of the day?

  • burky

    I didn’t see that big buy block on DARA at $5.15 fill – did I miss something or did it just get pulled?

  • timsykes

    there was a big buy block at 5.10, probly just a short seller putting in a fake buy order, trying to scare bitches like me into covering. it held 4.90 this time, so i’m not totally crazy, just disappointed as usual

  • lmsmith

    Eric T- no hints just random- based off of the past few days….It seems to spike up in the a.m – may hold and slowly fade in the afternoon…… I was just asking opinions, not that I will necessary execute

  • Eric T

    lmsmith – hold position overnight and sell the next mornint at the spike up? yea,,, i also wonder if DARA will do that

  • lmsmith

    Yes – my exact thoughts…..

  • timsykes

    it spikes in the A because early shorts are getting squeezed…judging by this morning’s action, yes, it might bounce and stay positive, but it looks liek the squeeze is mostly over. if it acts like i think it will, we’ll have sideways price action followed by an afternoon fade—thats the time to go short and probly hold that overnight down to $4

  • Stan

    really? u think it can go down to $4 tomorrow? wow

  • Aegir

    Tim are you still in DARA.

  • KS

    Nice trade on DARA, but patience. Hold on to some shares to buy back lower later. How come you don’t scale out of positions, much like scaling in? I realize these plays move fast are not very liquid, but yeah they may pop for a few minutes or so, but eventually they are going to bust lower.

  • timsykes

    Aegir, read the comments, its all there, I’m out

    I dunno about $4 tomorrow but probly in the next few days, lots of bitter shareholders happy to get out on any bounce

  • timsykes

    4.73. god i hate myself. welcome to my business model, watch TIM screw up completely, know he’s screwed up, unable to get back in due to ridiculous rules, and watch his readers reap all the rewards…TIM $16k, only $9k off from freedom!

  • Aegir

    Tim, HURC any comments on that one?

  • Stan

    whats you opinion on SEED? that would have been a big score today! maybe it will drop tomorrow too? but just not as much as today obviously.

  • timsykes

    HURC and SEED, both unpredictable chart patterns, both earnings plays, not my game at all, avoid

  • Davey

    Tim,

    How about a little love for brining DARA to the blog, I’m still in and I’m loving TOS, that live chat works awesome they got me shares in a split second.

  • timsykes

    who cares who brought what stock where. DARA popped up on about a dozen of my technical screens. here there will be no praise given for finding stocks, finding stocks is easy….praise will only be given for finding patterns or for playing those patterns correctly based on previous patterns. we’re not stock pickers, we’re pattern players

  • tsa

    What is your opinion with the IDMI current surge

  • Aegir

    Hey tim, is there not any pick that you are watching?

  • Davey

    Whoa, handing out slices of humble pie lol, but I did mention it because it was setting up as the patterns you play. As long as we’re all making money, I’m good.

  • timsykes

    i see the idmi spike, no way to buy or short it, still mid-range

    no other picsk on my radar other than VISN which i posted about last night

    no humble pie needed, it was a good find, i just want people to bring me patterns instead of stocks.

  • lmsmith

    Any one shorted SHZ?

  • Ivan Mutaftchiev

    Tim,

    What do you think about shorting OME ? It’s trying to go back into positive territory after being down all morning….

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  • pete

    tim,
    im new, but im down with you game on patterns. please give me a stock that has your ideal chart pattern, ill study it and find more patterns like it.
    pete

  • timsykes

    see the sample slide on my dvd

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  • Reaper

    still in CLZR … I want low .80s and see no reason to get out

  • Reaper

    haha some Tim follower was in too much of a hurry and covered at .95

  • http://www.test.timothysykes.com timothysykes

    ha u wish reaper, no tim follower has that much $!

  • http://www.test.timothysykes.com timothysykes

    the upside is because stockpreacher just released an afternoon newsletter:

    StockPreacher Newsletter ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Greetings!
    Good Afternoon!
    CLZR has been a great trade for many of you. Hitting a high of $1.59 (+140? within 15 minutes of our emails going out, some had the potential to really cash in!

    CLZR has really been a Day Traders dream today due to the fact that it came back down into the .80′s and then went back up to $1.05 range, then back down into the .80′s again, and back up to the $1.10 range – Needless to say, many lucrative opportunities came and went in this Market today so far!

  • Reaper

    yeah, I just saw. STill looking fine to remain short, though.

  • Reaper

    Out $CLZR for $888.60 for 2009 TimProfit of $1196.06

  • be-the-ball

    made $200 on it, lousy entry

  • http://www.test.timothysykes.com timothysykes

    now CLZR sellers look determined LOL, ah well, i’ll wipe my tears with my 3 newfound $100 bills

  • http://www.test.timothysykes.com timothysykes

    BTB, i love the post, i love how we get spoiled with a few hundred dollar gains

  • be-the-ball

    LOL, not spoiled, like Reaper, I play much larger than most of your subs. On a percent basis, I made squat. I was away from my desk when the first alert came out so missed the better entry.

  • Reaper

    no, BTB, not like Reaper … the Reaper I used to be was a big swinging dick who would’ve seen CLZR when it was first spiking and shorted 30k shares at 1.2, banking $9k in profit. I am but a shadow of my former self.

  • Reaper

    I shouldn’t even call myself Reaper anymore. Please everyone refer to me as “The Trader Who Used to be Known as Reaper but has been Sucking Balls Lately and Until he Stops Sucking Balls he will NOT be Known as Reaper.”

  • be-the-ball

    LOL Reaper…yeah, we were all better traders before we knew what we were doing…..blissful ignorance of the risks involved is a powerful allay….

  • http://www.test.timothysykes.com timothysykes

    watching FEED as potential buy on this late day turnaround, too steep for my tastes though…

  • tbohen

    out $FEED +$876

  • http://www.test.timothysykes.com timothysykes

    nice tbohen, i know these patterns, they just act the way they want to every now and then

  • HopeSolo

    AHH! why did I panic and sell FEED at 3.16, i’m an idiot!!

  • HopeSolo

    LOL and I was told I don’t trade scared enough…

  • Getshorty

    Not an idiot HS, the play was to rebuy it after it couldn’t break under 3.

    REbought Feed at 3.02 (had a tight stop at 2.89), yooohoooo

  • lazydeveloper

    Good play GetShorty!

    I Got out at $3.20 in the morning (in at $3.17 with Tim). We have resistance at $4.00 and at $3.50(Was looking for a pullback from the wall of sellers so I can re-enter, but it doesn

  • Getshorty

    You were right lazy, couldn’t break the 3.50 resistance, stopped out at 3.37 from 3.02.

  • HopeSolo

    Good job getshorty, i’ll keep an eye on it for the morning spike as well.

  • Getshorty

    Back on FEED at 3.39, liked how it hold the 3.30s….. GAP UP !!!

  • HopeSolo

    Thinking of doing the same tomorrow, I want my commissions back!

  • Getshorty

    Reaper, please choose a shorter nickname

  • dave197984

    Holy #$#@ anybody see DNDN today……

  • http://www.test.timothysykes.com timothysykes

    LOL dave

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